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December 1, 2006
Open House Picks: Townhouses
Park Slope
19 Prospect Place
Brown Harris Stevens
Sunday 11:30-2
$1,745,000
GMAP P*Shark
Ditmas Park
497 Marlborough Road
Skylar Shaye Group
Sunday 1-3
$995,000
GMAP P*Shark
Windsor Terrace
51 East 2nd Street
Corcoran
Sunday 2:30-4:30
$829,000
GMAP P*Shark
Bedford Stuyvesant
468 Greene Avenue
Fillmore
Sunday 204
$699,000
GMAP P*Shark
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Park Sloper seems priced to sell. Any comps significantly lower than this?
Posted by: Anonymous at December 1, 2006 12:18 PM
The Park Slope house has been on the market a VERY long time. The layout is very strange--the owners triplex has no access to the garden and the kitchen is on the third floor.....
Posted by: Anonymous at December 1, 2006 12:37 PM
Dregs of the market, can't wait to see what shows up in the spring.
Posted by: Anonymous at December 1, 2006 1:07 PM
Agree, these are the dregs. All 4 are overpriced and underwhelming.
Posted by: Anonymous at December 1, 2006 1:10 PM
Windsor Terrace house is cute, but I'm sorry, a 6'5 x 8'7 room with no window is not even close to being a bedroom
Posted by: anonymous at December 1, 2006 1:10 PM
the Park Slope house is interesting, but should sell for 1.45M, any original detail was taken out in the 80's
Posted by: chuckdwawa at December 1, 2006 1:20 PM
I LOVE the bedstuy house. it seems to be priced okay although its pretty far from the A train. what say the peanut gallery?
Posted by: Anonymous at December 1, 2006 1:23 PM
agree; Bed Stuy house looks nice even if the kitchen is a tad dungeon-like
Posted by: anonymous at December 1, 2006 1:54 PM
Park Slope house looks nice but it's shallow
Posted by: Anonymous at December 1, 2006 1:58 PM
I love the Bed Stuy kitchen!!!
Posted by: yente at December 1, 2006 2:15 PM
I love the Bed Stuy kitchen too. I'd love to have an old pot bellied stove like that in my kitchen, it's very cozy. The floors are great, love the country sink, and it looks like a great old range in the left foreground. Not crazy about the potrack, but that's so minor. I like this country look. It feels like comfort food, cookies in the oven, and a hot cup of mulled cider. From the weather report, that would be great in the next few days.
Posted by: CrownHeightsProud at December 1, 2006 3:15 PM
BedsStuy looks Ok, but for $700,000? Not.
Posted by: Anonymous at December 1, 2006 4:35 PM
agreed, the Park Slope house has a strange layout, don't love the kitchen renovation, and it smells like cat
Posted by: anonymous at December 1, 2006 4:41 PM
The Windsor Terrace house is nice enough, but unless I'm mistaken it's been sitting around since late spring, early summer. It was on the Warren Lewis website, and went thru one, maybe two price reductions, down to $799,000.
It looks like owner has shifted to Corcoran, proprieter of the most overpriced homes in Brooklyn.
Posted by: michael at December 1, 2006 5:15 PM
I thought the price seemed low on the Bed Stuy house. It seems to me that prices have actually risen in the neighborhood this past year.
Posted by: Anonymous at December 1, 2006 6:33 PM
The Park Slope house was overpriced from the beginning. It is worth about $1.5. It is a total gut there is not one nice thing in it. I understand it is vacant and the sellers are anxious to unload it. Make a real low ball offer ..
Very shallow
Posted by: jimmy at December 1, 2006 7:29 PM
Re the A train: the Bed-Stuy house is very close to the G train and you can change for the A or C right across the platform at Hoyt-Schermerhorn.
Posted by: Anonymous at December 1, 2006 7:45 PM
yea but the G train is the worse train ever I would never want to wait on that train especailly late night... I can go on and on about how much I hate it which I why I completely ignored it was near this house and only mentioned the A train. I know I'm probably being over the top its just my personal preference. however, I can justify catching the G train if I'd purchased this house. I really like the house and its priced well. if it was over 1M and I still had to endure the inconvenience of the G I'd probably be a little less willing.
Posted by: Anonymous at December 1, 2006 8:47 PM
The G train is not bad at all these days! Especially where I live, in CH, taking the G two stops and catching the A to work on the other side is quick and painless, and I take it at odd hours, too, coming home after midnight. When I first moved here I thought, ugh, the G train, I'll probably walk 3 blocks down to Fulton and take the C directly. But I almost never do that anymore because the G is much more convenient.
Posted by: carla at December 1, 2006 8:57 PM
I saw the WT house when it was with WL and more recently with Corcoran. The seller obviously did a bunch of work in there. It was all painted and some of the unattractive carpet had been pulled up, exposing some wood flooring. I'm not sure what room dosen't have a window because every room I went in had one. Maybe a mistake on the floor plan? I really liked the house, although I would definitely want to update the bathrooms, and the block is really beautiful. I don't know where else you could get that much space and a garage for that price.
Posted by: Anonymous at December 1, 2006 9:18 PM
No offense, I guess, but the last comment has the trail markings of a realtor. If the commenter loved it so much, and visited it twice, howcum they didn't slap down a check and buy it?
And more to the point the commenter asks where oh where could you get so much space and a garage too (ooh! ooh!)
for such a great price?
Well, savvy buyers could have picked the same place for less than its listed $799,000 just a month ago. And pulled up the carpet and painted for, lemme see, $5000, tops? And that garage, while nice, also means that the backyard is postage stamped.
Don't get me wrong. A nice house, and no doubt the owners are good folks. But the market, thank God, is slowly coming back to reality and nice but not spectacular homes like this are selling for something affordable to the city's very hard pressed middle class(notwithstanding the heavy sighing of closet realtors).
Posted by: Michael at December 1, 2006 9:28 PM
Also smelt a realtor on that one--it's been sitting on the market for ages but the giveaway was the line about the block--it's an okay block but, like many in that area, likely to be taken over by oppressive brick multifamilies on former sideyards and lots that once held quaint houses.
Posted by: Anonymous at December 1, 2006 10:25 PM
Im not a realtor and am in no way connected to this house. I think the WT house is on a pretty tree lined block and in a wonderful nabe. I saw a house on this block earlier this year that was in a lot worse shape and sold for over $800K from what a remember. It also needed a lot of work. (for those wondering why I didnt buy it...ended up opting to spend more and buy a larger house. In any case, I agree with the poster that its hard to find a good size house with parking in WT for this price.
Posted by: Anonymous at December 1, 2006 10:36 PM
I wrote the suspect post. I live around the corner and I go to all the open houses around here. Thats why I saw it twice and didn't buy it. The block is really pretty. East 2nd has a lot more trees than E. 3rd or 4th because in the 1940's the people that were living on the street got together and paid for more trees to be planted on their block. The result is lovely.
Posted by: Anonymous at December 2, 2006 9:15 AM
anytime someone posts a positive comment, they are branded as brokers..
Posted by: OE at December 2, 2006 10:47 AM
If you are not a realtor, then my apologies. Truly.
That said, my comment went directly to the question of price and not the quality of the neighborhood, which is lovely and middle and working class, and hopefully will not get "Corcoranized".
And I would stick by my commonsense observation: Ripping up carpeting and painting two rooms amounts to about $2,000 worth of work, and so you'd expect to see the price go to $801,000. I very much hope that Corcoran does not find suckers from Manhattan who view this as a great deal.
But, again, my apologies if you are not a realtor.
Posted by: Michael at December 2, 2006 5:57 PM
Also, it's very hard to judge pricing in this market. To say that a house went over $800,000 earlier this year is not necessarily an argument for present value. Prices have softened, not uniformly, but in enough cases to make it very difficult to judge the market. Just in the past two months, three Warren Lewis listings in Windsor Terrace took a haircut before selling, and even Corcoran has brought down the prices on two properties in the same (very nice) neighborhood.
I would add that a more significant shift downward in the market would be a very good thing for the culture of the city. Any longtime resident could still make a relative killing on their property, while family oriented middle class people might find an affordable neighborhood ...
Maybe
Posted by: Michael at December 2, 2006 6:03 PM
Indeed, someone went to an open house and did not buy it? Hard to believe. Positive comments are always posted by agents.
Posted by: Anonymous at December 2, 2006 8:43 PM
I saw the house on Marlborough Road. It is at least 100K overpriced, as it is on the tracks and needs updating.
Posted by: Anonymous at December 3, 2006 6:40 PM
Prospect Place house does have garden access for owners. It's in good shape. Lots of wrecks in the area have gone for much much more. I would buy it but am in the middle of a truly horrible gut renovation job elsewhere. This house has better bones and a better location than the one I got. Oh well. You live and learn.
Posted by: Anonymous at December 4, 2006 8:21 AM

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