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November 3, 2006

Bloomberg Wakes Up and Smells the Carnage

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In the wake of three construction accidents on Wednesday, Mayor Bloomberg met with officials from several city angencies to discuss worker safety. The result is a 28-member task force (including union reps, contractors and government officials) that is charged with delivering a set of recommendations to the mayor next month. Considering that 17 workers have already been killed at work sites around the city over the past year, Bloomberg's move clearly comes embarrassingly late. Even if you throw money at the problem, you've got serious execution issues. Namely, an unhealthy mix of laziness, incompetence and lack of manpower (and, some would allege, corruption) at DOB. Louis Coletti, president of the Building Trades Employers’ Association may have the right idea when it comes to disciplining contractors who don't play by the rules. “Fines are not enough,” he said. “They should be put out of business.”
Recent Accidents Prompt Worker Safety Meeting [NY1]
Construction Worker Falling Deaths Rise [NY Sun]
City Forms Task Force to Improve Worker Safety [NY Times]
Photo by Angela Jimenez for The New York Times




Comments

How shocking and tragic. It is mind-boggling to think that 17 people have died and one of the articles says 24 last year. City agencies really need to get on the stick and I guess it is also important for us as concerned people to be sure to report any working conditions that appear to be unsafe.

Posted by: anon at November 3, 2006 10:32 AM

As per the NYT article:

So, while all intentions are good, are we also looking into worker safety as it relates to falling I-beams, collapsing foundation walls, no protective railings, falling debris and premature burial under unsafe ground conditions?

Common' Mike, let's do the whole kit and caboodle.

“One fatality in our city is one too many,” Ms. Lancaster said.

Then why do we have 17? Or is it 24!?!

“Fines are not enough,” he said. “They should be put out of business.” [Louis J. Coletti, president of the Building Trades Employers’ Association]

Here, here!

I feel like a broken record on this blog calling for reform of the DOB, building codes and ousting developers, contractors and folks who do biz in our fair City and continue to flout the law and put peoples lives at risk to make a fast buck.

Still disgusted.

Posted by: lostinbrooklyn at November 3, 2006 10:41 AM

Well, this certain looks promising! I'm sure a task force that consists (apparently 2/3) of contractors and union reps is really going to get this problem taken care of! (Insert emoticon for bitter sarcasm here).

Posted by: Mr. Minerva at November 3, 2006 11:04 AM

YES, shut contractors and companies down if there are multiple infractions and certainly if there are deaths. People need to start picketing these companies' construction sites. I'll do it. Where do I sign up?

Organize!!

Posted by: Anonymous at November 3, 2006 11:05 AM

it takes someone dying in Union Square to get any attention from Bloomberg.

everything that happens in the other Boroughs is just part of progress in his eyes.

Posted by: chuck at November 3, 2006 11:09 AM

Well then if money talks and morality walks for Bloomberg, we'll picket these buildings when the realtors are trying to sell the units inside. Slow down or prevent sales of those units, see how Bloomberg reacts then.

Posted by: Anonymous at November 3, 2006 11:20 AM

Wait, these are just FALLS, the 17 they reference. Not "construction accidents". So the 17 deaths doesn't even count the deaths from accidents - being buried under rubble when an unsecured wall collapses, etc. And we know there have been several of those deaths this past year. What's the stat on ALL types of construction worker deaths this year?

Posted by: Anonymous at November 3, 2006 11:24 AM

it's really easy to get on this bandwagon, but does anyone know what the statistics are in other parts of the country where there is less corruption, more enforcement, etc.?

construction is not and never will be an entirely accident free occupation, and while deaths and injuries clearly need to be minimized they can not be entirely avoided.

Having said that, DOB is a total joke, something does need to be done about it. But it may also be that some of these safety laws are so strict that they are almost meant to be broken. For example, why do you need a licensed electrician to replace a light fixture in your house - any idiot can do it. Same with most plumbing. I realize that there is some risk in it, but there is also a risk in just getting on a ladder in one's house, but no one suggests you need a license for that.

Posted by: anon at November 3, 2006 11:53 AM

I just know after living in 2 other major cities in the US (Los Angeles and Seattle) before moving to NYC, I have never in those other cities heard of so many construction deaths as I've read and heard about in the 2 years I've lived in NYC. Based on that, I would guess the stats would make NYC pretty high on the list of dangerous construction sites. None of the other cities in the US have as much highrise construction - that right there raises the number of deaths.

Posted by: Anonymous at November 3, 2006 12:05 PM

Let me get this straight-
Underpaid, mostly poor and undocumented workers come here looking for the American Dream.
-They go to work risking their lives for some wealthy scum.
-The wealthy scum know what the laws are but instead of following them they USE them
-They don't pay the proper taxes, or insurance
-They work these poor slobs to there deaths, Literally
-When the poor slobs die on the job the Rich scum inevitably say that the slob "just started" working for them. And that it is somehow the poor slobs fault.
-The Rich scum are levied some ridiculous fine. Which they gladly pay while they are allowed to continue to abuse the laws and the people who work for them.
-The Scum then sell there Billion dollar Luxury Condoms
-They pay no taxes (thank you 421a)
-They buy more property and destroy more Communities
-Oh Oh a small problem on the Horizon.
421a will expire.
-No problem we'll just get the idiots to "Reform" 421a.
-The fools think they are reforming a bad law when what they are really doing is EXTENDING it for the rich scum to continue on there merry way.
By the way, Mr. Mayor, 400 million dollars was lost last year to this Welfare for the rich.
How many of those poor slobs were able to buy one of those Luxury Condoms? and How many of those poor families could have been housed and supported by 400 Million dollars.
I say put the scum in Jail.
Expire 421a.
Give the Money to the people who live work, pay taxes and build this City.

Posted by: My2Cents at November 3, 2006 12:06 PM

Wow, what an erudite message from My2Cents, I never knew the people who risk their time and capital to fulfill peoples desires for housing and businesses, provide jobs for millions, feed and entertain them were such terrible scum. Yes, jail them all, that will definitely show them!

I definitely agree that the DOB is corrupt, and I say that we banish them all, and let insurance companies take over the job of ensuring quality construction practices, just as they do now for a multitude of other risk-prone activities.

With a good insurance rating, you could trust that the home/condo you bought was built in a quality manner, because if it wasn't, the insurance company that indemnified the developer would soon be out of business.

They'd also stand to lose a lot of money if anybody would be physically injured or financially hurt by their less than careful construction process.

They would have a constant visit of overseers to all their insured projects to make sure everything was going according to the documents, and that no developer was flirting with the agreed rules, or they'd lose their coverage.

Of course it means that construction projects would lose the slothlike bureaucracy that the DOB brings to the picture, as competition would force insurance companies to quickly approve or object to the construction documents which were submitted to them.

I'm sure that most of you don't realize this, but the more you "tighten your grip", the more moral hazard is created, leading to even more accidents and deaths, the blood of which is on your hands.

Posted by: iceberg at November 3, 2006 3:23 PM

iceberg,

Now that's thinking. Add a bushel of lawyers, a pinch of politicians and they all can laugh their way to the bank.

Perhaps annuities on buildings that only pay off if workers die?

Posted by: lostinbrooklyn at November 3, 2006 3:43 PM

Lost,

Laugh all you want, but what you basically have now is the DOB subsidize the true cost of construction. no doubt the current insurance required for construction purposes would be higher if there was no DOB to "guarantee" the safety of the workers and the final product.

Of course I don't put my faith in the DOB, so I'm happy to have the lower housing prices, and I'll go with the builder's reputation to make my judgements.

Posted by: iceberg at November 3, 2006 4:23 PM

With out cheap expendable labor where would this country be? After the dust settles and the money laundered maybe out of the goodness of someones heart they will take pity on the poor slobs and build a museum, or a basketball arena for the children.

Posted by: dime a dozen at November 3, 2006 4:30 PM

Insurance companies? Not that I will ever understand how people expect to live in coastal areas plagued by huricanes... but didn't the insurance companies just have a "record profits year" after raising policies? All a builder has to do is use a few extra nails and some cheap brackets to prevent a significant amount of property storm related wind damage. But they don't. There is currently a new roofing nail on the market that would add about $20 to the cost of an entire new house. But builders cut costs all the time.

Posted by: Anonymous at November 3, 2006 4:46 PM

IceBreath
I don't know were you came up with this Insurance Company theory but it is obvious that you either have no Idea what your talking about (which I find hard to believe) or your Bread is Buttered by one of the many Bureaucracies (Private or Public - It doesn't really matter) that thrive on the lies they perpetrate.
Ex: After 911, in anticipation of a financial catastrophe, the Insurance industry was bailed out by our Gov't (which means the tax payers) to the tune of something like 60 BILLION dollars. On top of that they were allowed to increase there rate's by as much as 50% - Across the board. To date the amount actually paid out by the these Companies is a fraction of what was given to them. And they are still reaping the benefits of the rate increases.
Yea that's the people who I want to trust.
On top of that - Most of these Scum don't pay the proper insurance. Insurance is for people who have something to lose. These scum have nothing to worry about because everything they have is in a different LLC'c. None of them is connected in any way. So when the shit hits the fan they just move on - unscathed

Posted by: my2cents at November 3, 2006 5:29 PM

Come now iceberg. Another complicated and patronizing argument. Do your really believe that "the people who risk their time and capital to fullfill peoples desires for housing and businesses, provide jobs for millions, feed and entertain them...." are doing it for the public good? Some are ethical but in the current climate, the bigger the profit the better even if corners are being cut and people's lives put in jeopardy. Not only are workers being injured and killed but neighboring homes are being structurally compromised all over the boro causing unimaginable hardship. There are builders and developers who work with integrity but the fact that the current climate in NYC is totally stacked towards "those kind souls who fulfill the needs", but more often the FANTASIES of the well off, fuels greed in the entire building industry. What is more, the fox runs the hen house so what do you expect. All this talk of commissions is just to avoid looking like hewhocan'tbenamed is a)asleep at the wheel or b)anti working class New York, c)doesn't understand d)protecting cronies...

If there were real teeth to the penalties for construction abuse of all kinds I bet these accidents would be less frequent.

lostinbrooklyn you've got it completely right!

Posted by: estherwilliamsburg at November 3, 2006 7:36 PM

Don't worry, I've got answers for the lot of you.

Starting with anonymous @ 4:46, I bet he has never known that FEMA the federal agency charged with mitigating the devestation caused by natural disasters is actually the culprit in most cases!

Now of course I'm not saying that FEMA causes the hurricanes, floods and storms, but rather they subsidize the homeowners who decide to live in high-risk areas by providing them with access to cheap homeowners insurance. If that is not a blatant case of moral hazard, I don't know what is.

In essense, we the taxpayers are subsidizing these people's [idiotic] choice to live in the path of a tornado, and when their homes are strewn around the countryside like toys, we pay again.

This has nothing to do with private insurance, because no rational insurance company would underwrite such high risks so cheaply.

Now you want to know why the contractors use cheaper nails? Its simple-- because their clueless buyers don't demand it, because they have no incentive to make sure that their home is hurricane proof, after all, FEMA will pay them to rebuild, and give them insurance coverage when no other sane person would.


My2Cents,

I'd love to have my bread buttered. Please direct me to the right party.

Anyway, I would have to agree with you about the sad state of the insurance market, as unfortunately its a highly regulated industry, which also means that they probably have a good lobby and a few politicians on their payroll.

I disagree with your contention that insurance companies should not be free to change their rates as frequent or as drastic as they would like to. If we would simply stop regulating the amount of players in that market, they wouldn't be able to play those shenanigans if there were many alternatives.

But since its a highly regulated industry, it actually serves in the favor of the entrenched players to maintain high barriers to entry of competition.

I'm suprised you conspiracy-minded nuts haven't figured it out by now, most regulated industries favor the regulation; its a process known as "regulatory capture". See more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture


Esther,

"Do your really believe that "the people who risk their time and capital..." are doing it for the public good? "

Honestly, I could care less for the intentions of developers; they could be the devil and I could care less.

In any case, I'm disgusted by the lot of people who say the word "profit" like it was a sin. The same goes for "greed", and the many other lascivious descriptions of developer behaviour, such as "raping" the neighborhood, et. al.

Profit is a beautiful, and I'm not saying this because I read Rand as a kid. Profit arises from a situation in which a person brought about a highly desired product, and was rewarded in part by society. Think about it, because it means the entreprenuer is actually serving society when he serves himself. Adam Smith, to many the father of economics discovered this fact.

Posted by: iceberg at November 4, 2006 7:27 PM

Ice Man,
I don't have a lot of time to continue this conversation but I will say that you have (as I thought) proven yourself to be wiser than some of your remarks. And that is why I wonder about some of the things you say. Someone who is obviously as smart as you should know better.
Till next time.
Gotta go.

Posted by: My2Cents at November 5, 2006 12:05 PM

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