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November 16, 2006
Development Watch: 888 Fulton Street
When we asked about this building on Fulton at Waverly back in June, one reader said it was to be six-stories. According to DOB filings, though, it's going to be a four-story residential building. Turns out, it's also a Scarano project which, as long as everything's by the book, is a good thing for this stretch of Fulton Street, even if it does look a little out of scale with the buildings next to it. If we had to guess, we'd say rentals instead of condos given the high-traffic location. Anyone know for sure?
What's Going On (And Up) at 888 Fulton? [Brownstoner] GMAP DOB
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I'm always in favor of filling in the gaps. I just wish the lot next to it would have been included in the site.
Posted by: Clinton Hillster at November 16, 2006 11:52 AM
On second thought, I'm glad this project is on a single lot. This project forces small ground floor retail that is only attractive it independant retailers, rather than chains.
Posted by: Clinton Hillster at November 16, 2006 11:58 AM
"...even if it does look a little out of scale with the buildings next to it."
What is wrong with you, you little, tiny man. Out of scale?
Little Brooklyn, you poor borough of small, simple-minded mice.
Posted by: Anonymous at November 16, 2006 12:01 PM
Anon 12:01,
What the hell is wrong with YOU?
Posted by: Anonymous at November 16, 2006 12:03 PM
at the risk of making this whole post about 12:01, what IS your problem? would you speak like that to someone at a dinner party with whom you disagreed?
Posted by: Anonymous at November 16, 2006 12:14 PM
looks like hight ceilings if it is only 4 stories...
more vitality for Fulton Street. I think it is good. It's not too big, and I think Fulton can handle larger buildings, so long as the few decent buildings that still exist are not destroyed but readapted...
Posted by: lp at November 16, 2006 12:21 PM
On the scarano architects website there's a rendering in the Multifamily Residential category - third row down, third picture from the left. It looks like it is all residential, not commercial on the bottom, but you can't tell from the picture. Not sure what I think of the facade, but it is definitely better than what is (not) there now. The ceilings look to be very high. In total, I think it will be a positive addition, along with the Clinton Avenue building, that should provide even more of an impetus for shopping and dining improvements on Fulton Street for all the area residents.
Posted by: lp at November 16, 2006 12:26 PM
If there is not residential planned at the bottom, we neighbors need to protest. Fulton is a shopping street of small retail, not a residential street.
I agree, with lp. The ceiling heights seem to be abnormally high. Watching the construction, I have been under the impression that the building is a six story building, divided into 3 duplexes.
Posted by: Clinton Hillster at November 16, 2006 12:29 PM
I don't think the ceilings are "abnormally" high, just high, and I think it is a good thing in that it will make the residences attractive.
I would not be too fussed if there was no commercial space in the bottom. I cannot tell from the rendering if that is the case or not. Regardless, there are plenty of empty commercial spaces on this stretch of Fulton that need to be developed before I start protesting. ;-)
Posted by: lp at November 16, 2006 1:32 PM
Lets just say they are abnormally high for a low budget scarano project.
I agree that other retails spaces need to be developed, but for a small retailer, it would seem to be much easier, cheaper, and more attractive to move into a white-box, rather than having to gut a trashed storefront.
Posted by: Clinton Hillster at November 16, 2006 2:16 PM
DOB application/permit is for 8 unit residential.
Posted by: Anonymous at November 16, 2006 2:20 PM
but everyone knows about the Scarano buildings.
Passing off mezz spaces as habitable so as not to count it as Floor area, hence taller buildings and out of scale.
Scarano should have his license taken away.
end of story. Despite the revitalization of this block, any real architect would have done a better job.
Posted by: anon at November 16, 2006 5:23 PM
I abso-freaking-lutely agree with 5:23. Scarano might have nicer finishes and slightly more inspired design than others, he is an absolute crook and is doing brooklyn a terrible dis-service.
Posted by: Anonymous at November 16, 2006 5:34 PM
Just an FYI to all of you, I know the building owner next door to the one going up, and guess what, the owners of the new building going up, while excavating the foundation, had cracked the foundation of the neighboring black checkerboard brick bldg on the corner. He apparently does sloppy work. Luckily, it didn't come all tumbling down.
Posted by: Anonymous at November 16, 2006 7:11 PM
Yes the small minded ignorant mases that read this site. Me included.
ANON 5:33 and 5:34 first you should get an Architectural license other than the one the DMV gave you to speak about my 300 plus jobs in this borough. Come out from under your rock and see me at my office and I will show you how insignificant you really are.
Posted by: scarano at November 16, 2006 11:18 PM
Scarano gets to email from prison?
Posted by: anon at November 17, 2006 8:00 AM
Dear Scarano,
I have my architectural license, you scum bag.
No Love, Anon 5:34
Posted by: Anonymous at November 17, 2006 9:55 AM
Mr. Scarano. I'm a great fan of your work. Love the buildings that you've put up in brooklyn. They're better than what was there before. I must admit that I'm too naive to respond to the accusations that have been rallied against you. Don't take it personal. Listen to the complaints carefully and if they hold any merit, make the necessary changes. That being said I would just encourage you to keep up the good work
Posted by: Anonymous at November 17, 2006 1:25 PM
yet another stream of vitriol about scarano and i am reminded of the opinion of the leader of a bad band i was in: 'i'd rather be hated than provoke no reaction at all'
Posted by: Anonymous at November 17, 2006 7:58 PM
anon 9:55. I didn't know that the license from the republic of nowhere counted as an architectural license?
Why not post some of the addresses of jobs you built so we can have some fun reviewing your work, that is if you won't cry after I am finished with you.
Posted by: scarano at November 18, 2006 10:30 AM
This developer is cutting corners to save money, which impact the quality of the building. He also doesn't pay his sub-contractors.
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