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October 21, 2005

The Story Behind Bed Stuy House #4

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Below is the first-hand account of the owner of House #4 on last weekend's Bed Stuy house tour. It's a pretty incredible story that should be inspiration and solace for any brownstone renovators who are feeling overwhelmed by the road ahead. Heck, it puts our recent plumbing problems in serious perspective. Hats off to you.

My mother and I shared a 3 bedroom condo in Fort Greene for 11 years when we decided that we wanted a house. Unfortunately, by this time, brownstones in Fort Greene were out of reach, especially since we both agreed that we did not want to be landlords. Our goal was to find a 4-story brownstone that we could us as a Mother/Daughter--with each of us occupying two floors. Our search took us to Bedstuy, a place where neither one of us had ventured before. We saw a lot of crappy sheet-rocked houses but we wanted original details.

fireplaceAfter a year of searching, I gave up. However, some time thereafter, my mother received a call from a seller whom she had contacted the year before. Because I was so disgusted by the whole process, I initially refused to go but my mother insisted. The legal 3-family house had no electricity, so the seller showed us some of the house using a hand-held light powered by a neighbor's electricity. From what we could see, the bottom two floors had details galore. After weeks of negotiations (the sellers were investors who we flipping the house), we had the house inspected (the seller took the engineer around with the had held light) and entered into a contract after being told that the house needed some updates, but was relatively in move-in condition. Unfortunately, not the case.
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We closed on December 31, 2000. Once we got the keys, had the lights turned on and called the oil company to service the boiler (the engineer had told us that it would last at least two years) we realized that we were in trouble. I refused to even think about moving in until we had an electrician look at it. Of course, the place had to be rewired from top to bottom. Additionally, all the plumbing had to be replaced and we found out that the boiler had a crack in it - something the engineer had to have seen. ( I forced the sellers to give me some money for the boiler). We even had to replace the roof.

Once the house was rewired and the holes repaired, the floors sanded and the boiler replaced, we moved in in May 2001. We had no kitchen--so we ate out for months. The way the kitchen designer configured the garden floor kitchen, we needed a large fridge that opened at a 90 degree angle (how naïve we were)--this fridge cost almost $5,000 and could not get inside the house the normal way. We had to remove a window and bars from the parlor floor and slide the fridge in. It cost us money to remove and replace the window as well as put the iron bars back together.

During this time, we sold the condo (I do mean "we"--we had the worst brokers). Once the kitchen was finished, we thought we were moving forward. Instead, our contractor informed us that the kitchen contractor had built our kitchen over a compromised beam. Everyday, a tile would crack as our newly installed kitchen began to sink. The engineer must have missed the beam also. (I have no proof, but I think the seller paid him off). Our new kitchen had to be "jacked" up while the beam was replaced and reinforced. This all happened September 13, 2001 two days after fleeing lower Manhattan.

Once that was done we had our contractor smooth out the plaster walls, paint and begin to make the house more habitable. What should have been a six month project lasted for one and a half years and we had to live with dust, debris and contractors who tried to get more money from us because they took so long. Once the walls and new wood (3rd and 4th floor wood was unsalvageable) was done, we decided to have the original wood details taken care of. We hired a great wood restorer, who admits that he treated us a bit shabbily. I still recommend him because he did a great job--even though his 6 month project lasted another year and a half.

People ask if I would do it again. The answer is yes. I would do it differently, but we did not have sites like this back then. We did what we could, when we could and sometimes it worked out well and other times it was a disaster. After four years, our brownstone has been renovated/restored from top to bottom--inside and out (re-did the exterior brownstone, had the ironworks on the exterior stairs repaired and restored, cobblestones and cedar fence in the backyard--the works) and we love the end result. I hated this house for about 4 years because of all the money, time and energy it was cost us. However, now the look on people's faces when they see the house for the first time reminds me that my goal has been realized and it was all worth it.

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What a story. I'm glad for you that everything turned out so well. I wish I'd gone on the tour last weeked and seen it in person.

Posted by: Kel at October 21, 2005 10:11 AM

Hi I am the one from MacDonough Street who dropped you a note. Hooray for you and your mom for having the fortitude for seeing the projects through. I think I would have cracked up. More pictures please. It looks WONDERFUL!!!

Posted by: Susan at October 21, 2005 10:41 AM

I want to thank Brownstoner for taking an interest in our story. I really hope it inspires all of you who are where we once were. I will follow Brownstoner's advice and post some more pictures on "my brownstone" for those of you who missed the tour.

Posted by: House#4 at October 21, 2005 10:48 AM

Thanks so much for this info:) I'm in the beginning stages of a renovation three story BS in Bed Stuy. When I need a little inspiration I'll have to read your story:) Can you pass along the info of the wood restorer? We have alot of details that have been painted over, I'm going to strip them(don't laugh) but, I may get tired and need some help. Thanks

Posted by: bed stuy grl at October 21, 2005 10:58 AM

A Tamer Restoration & Refinishing & Reproduction, (718) 855-9530.

Posted by: House#4 at October 21, 2005 11:40 AM

Brownstoner,
Can you put this house into the "My Brownstone" section? (with more pics?)

Posted by: amanda at October 21, 2005 1:09 PM

Did you use an interior designer? If so, who? I fell in love with you fabric selections.

Posted by: anthony at October 21, 2005 1:14 PM

The whole point of My Brownstone is that people can do it themselves! But I believe that's what Ms. House #4 plans on doing.

Posted by: Brownstoner at October 21, 2005 1:36 PM

WOW! I mean WOW!!! To both your story and your house. I would love to see more pictures. We've been working on our Lefferts Garden limestone since we moved in 2.5yrs ago, but we have nothing near the great details of your home. I really want our next house to be a brownstone. Your story gives me the inspiration to persue a fixer-upper if we find the right one.

Posted by: Nativegal at October 21, 2005 1:44 PM

Anthony, no we did not use an interior designer. We found a reasonably priced fabric store on the Lower Eastside, picked fabrics, told them what we wanted and they did the measurements, sewing and installation. I don't have the info with me at work, but I'll forward it to you when I get home.

I promise that I'll put pictures of the house on My Brownstone as soon as I can.

Posted by: house#4 at October 21, 2005 2:31 PM

I think your story is pretty common to Brownstone Brooklyn. If you buy a house with all the original details there is a great chance that you are also getting 100 year old plumbing and electric, with maybe even a termite infestation thrown in for good measure. From the pictures, your home looks beautiful. You should be proud.
The previous owner of my house took pride in the fact that he did all his own repairs. What that really meant is that when I would flush the toilet, brown waste water would shoot out the bathtub drain. Or how "new wiring" meant that he had rewired his entire house with those $1.99 extension cords, one plugged into the next, even going so far as to plaster them into the walls. Take down any light fixture and you would find the plug-end sticking out for quick installation.

Our own renovation is going on eleven years now. In all that time we were never forced to spend more than two nights outside the house. We have even had a paying tenant for ten of those years. Being a renovation contractor, I have done most of the work myself, working after my day job and on weekends. When you work on other peoples houses for a living their lives come first. Yes, I have even removed window gates to get those monster sub zeroes into the occasional ground floor kitchen.

As for my own place, would I do it over again? Yeah it was a blast. I now own a modest, yet spectacular home in Park Slope, which I am extremely grateful for.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 21, 2005 2:36 PM

Thanks for letting those of us who missed the tour inside your home. It looks beautiful.

Posted by: sal at October 21, 2005 4:20 PM

I'm the proud new owner of the home right next door to House #4. And Every day they must see me staring at their front facade with Admiration, and a look of "ONE DAY, I TOO...." YOU ARE MY INSPIRATION and I hope I too will soon be at that end.

I'm thinking of documenting my renovation project on 'my brownstone' But the frustrations are far too many at this stage. I am taking pictures, so maybe closer to the end result, I'll let everyone in on it.

I want to be House #4 when I grow up!! :-)

Posted by: New Stoner at October 22, 2005 7:39 PM

Can you say a little more about the process of jacking up the house? Who did you use? How long did it take? etc, etc.

Posted by: browngirl at October 23, 2005 1:52 PM

I hate to be a bother but could you please give me the name of the fabric store that you purchased your fabric from? Thanks

Posted by: anthony at October 24, 2005 11:12 AM

The contractor working on my home at the time, did the work to secure the kitchen above while he replaced the beam. It took about 1 week to secure and replace everything and cost us about $14,000.00 Our insurance covered most of it, but dropped us at renewal time (another lesson learned).

The fabric store is M&A Decorators.

Posted by: house#4 at October 24, 2005 3:31 PM

would you mind telling us the name and number of the contractor and whether he was trustworthy, etc.

I went on the tour with my mom and kids, and we were thoroughly wowed by the bathrooms and the handling of the space. I keep checking back to see if you posted on my brownstone yet.

Thanks.

Posted by: browngirl at October 24, 2005 4:57 PM

M & A 212-226-2910

Thanks for the interest. Sorry, while he did a great job, I cannot recommend the contractor. He fell short in the end. I'll post pictures as soon as I find out from Brownstoner how to resolve the error message I keep getting.

Posted by: house#4 at October 25, 2005 12:43 AM

Correction 212-226-3910

Posted by: house#4 at October 25, 2005 12:43 AM

thank you for sharing!

Posted by: Anonymous at October 25, 2005 11:52 PM

Hi there,

I toured your GORGEOUS house and spoke with you about your experience. Unfortunately we may need to sue our contractor. Will you tell me who your lawyer was?

Thank you

Posted by: Anonymous at October 26, 2005 10:33 AM

Thank you so much for the fabric store info. Can you tell me what Tamer charged you for the wood work that they did? I am considering using them and I would like to have an idea of what they charge.

Thanks

Posted by: Anthony at October 26, 2005 12:50 PM

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