Fourth Avenue Fodder: The Only Way Is Up

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Waddup with this site on Fourth Avenue between 12th and 13th Streets? Presumably it's part of the next wave of large-scale residential buildings that will go up along this stretch. Specifics? GMAP

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This lot has been like this for a year or so. According to signs there, a supermarket was supposed to be going in there. But the work just stopped

Ron Weasley

Posted by: Anonymous at October 20, 2005 11:18 AM

Yup, it's been like that since I moved to the area in April 2004. I don't think they've done anything in that time... And you know what? That corner always stinks of sewage! I called 311 a year ago to no apparant effect.

Posted by: Jenny at October 20, 2005 11:52 AM

Absolutely nothing is going on or up there.

On another SoSoSlope note, the construction on 15th street b/w 4th and 5th was stopped by the DOB.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 20, 2005 12:05 PM

I know Butler Street 'tween 3rd and Nevins is off everyones radar but I walked by there last night walking to ParkSlope. Looks like large new bldg. in construction looking very much like new hotel that is being built on Union (3rd/4th).
NYC building dept website shows approved plan for transient hotel on Butler.
Can there really be a demand for hotel rooms in two scrappy looking blocks? Anyone have any ideas what really is going on?

Posted by: Anonymous at October 20, 2005 12:16 PM

I used to live around the corner. There was a wholesale beer & wine place there. I believe when they tore it down they intend to rebuild something similar. I don't think zoning has changed to residential, anyway.

Posted by: anonymouse at October 20, 2005 12:37 PM

I live 2 houses in from that lot. The plan as far as I know is it will be a 12 story condo or coop courtesy of Issac Katan. He also has purchased one of the brownstones (on 12th) and a sided house (on 13th). I also heard that he was trying to purchase the laundromat building on the corner of 13th and 4th to make it block-wide (12th to 13th). It has been over a year though since they knocked down the beverage distributor. In terms of the supermarket sign, that has been there over 3 years. This last weekend he paid someone to cut down the tree-like weeds in the lot and the brownstone next store.

Posted by: Moodyjive at October 20, 2005 1:36 PM

This is an 11 story project that is now being handled by Scarano, according to the building permits (address is 500 4th ave)

Regarding the zoning, it is residential, R8A per the rezoning of 4th ave from a couple of years back.

So, the application calls for a 120 ft building, 11 stories tall with a total of 142,634 square feet and 125 units. Wow. That seems to be more than even the upzoning would allow, not sure how they are doing that or if it will be approved but it's a big one.

Posted by: Ben at October 20, 2005 1:40 PM

Ben

If you dont mind me asking, where do you get your info? The DOB site? Just curious, as I am a concerned neighbor.

Thanks

Posted by: Moodyjive at October 20, 2005 2:08 PM

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/PropertyProfileOverviewServlet?boro=3&houseno=500&street=4th+avenue&requestid=0&s=11BABC942656EDFCF389E08BC1A4ABA4

Posted by: brklynarchtct at October 20, 2005 2:13 PM

yes, from the DOB as brklynarchtct posted above.

Posted by: Ben at October 20, 2005 2:42 PM