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June 27, 2005
Mass Eviction by Owner to Occupy Tenement
A couple is trying to evict all of the tenants in the 15-unit rent-control building at 47-49 East Third Street in the East Village under a loop hole in rent laws that allows for such evictions in the case that the owner plans to use the space for himself. According to this article, the claim has to pass the "giggle" test, i.e. the landlord must prove his good faith intention to live in apartments he is seeking to evict the tenants from. While hard stats are hard to come by, one lawyer who specializes in these cases estimates that landlords were on the losing end only a quarter of the time. In the rest of the cases, tenants were forced out after receiving a low 5-figure settlement.
It's hard to take this family's claim that they need 11,200 square feet to themselves seriously, but as the real estate market has heated up, the number of these types of cases has been increasing for obvious reasons. And while it's impossible not to empathize with those being displaced, ultimately we think the problem lies with the rent control law itself, an economically unsound social policy that raises the overall cost of housing in this city. We have no problem with the decision as a society to subsidize the housing costs of certain portions of the population--the elderly, handicapped, etc.--in fact, we support it in such clear-cut cases. But rather than forcing individual landlords to absorb that cost on a random basis, we think market rates should be allowed to prevail and the government should give the members of the subsidized population direct payments to help pay their market rents (or pay the landlords directly). That would avoid situations like a friend we know who inherited his family's rent control 10-room Park Avenue apartment that he still pays less than $2,000 a month for and do a better job of making sure the subsidies get to the right people. The current system is fraught with inefficiencies and invites the kind of corner-cutting on display in this article. That's what we think, anyway.
Everybody Out? [NY Times]
Comments
"It's hard to take this family's claim that they need 11,200 square feet to themselves seriously..."
I don't think so.... if you look at the new-construction McMansion houses, many are over 6,000 sq feet, and the really luxurious (tacky) ones are 10k sq feet. Sorry to say, I think these people just want a McMansion in the city. Most apts in NYC are small (except of course, those lovely brownstones featured here, esp the humongous Heights ones) so I think that's what causes the disbelief. "How can you want 10k sq ft when I'm so happy living in my 300 sq ft studio with my 800 books?"
Posted by: me at June 27, 2005 9:27 AM
"...ultimately we think the problem lies with the rent control law itself."
My respect for Mr. Brownstoner just skyrocketed.
Posted by: Gary at June 27, 2005 9:33 AM
Aw, come on, 11,000 sf? I don't buy it. They'll be flipping the building once the minimum time period is up.
Posted by: Xman at June 27, 2005 9:49 AM
Brownstoner's friend did not 'inherit' a 10 room Park Ave apt rent control...... he/she (abused the system and became the leaseholder. Perhaps the family did also minipulated the system over the years to prevent certain increases .. A savvy person can figure ways.
But the new landlord in this E3rd St. case is also being clever and savvy to take advantage of loopholes -
If you believe that he really intends to occupy the whole bldg -wants that much space -
and gets it- He just got a fantastic windfall because no deregulated space would be as cheap to buy as this bldg.
Don't forget that someone investing in rental property knows the cash flow and pays an agreed upon price based on this cash flow. But more likely he wants deregulated apts. to rentout or sell but buy them at going prices of 'regulated apts'.
Those that argue for ending of rent regs. are asking for a major windfall for these owners.
It is theoretical that rent regs. 'raises the overall cost of housing in this city'.
Abuses of the system take place on both sides of the landlord/tenant divide but I believe that overall benefit of rent reg. have been beneficial to this city. In a city of renters -
the population/society needs some level of security and stability which I think rent regs provide to a degree.
You are free to buy a lot in this - put up a new building of however many apts. govt/zoning allows and charge whatever rents you want. City does not impose rent regs. there - but many developers do 'sign-up' for it because city may provide tax abatements/subsidies.
No one is forcing a investor to be part of 'regulated' system - you buy into it - and market prices for these properties reflect the 'cash flow' .
Posted by: Anonymous at June 27, 2005 10:13 AM
rent control is one of those things that makes NY NY. If it wasn't for rent control, almost every neighborhood would change and for the worse in my opinion.
I don't think cheaters are a good example of the system that protects mostly senior citizens these days
Posted by: Anonymous at June 27, 2005 10:16 AM
question (not trying to incite a riot, I just really don't know): what is the difference between giving notice to rent-regulated tenants like in the Times story here, and trying to change a brownstone to single-family from an SRO?
I dont read this website often but I do remember something on changing SROs.
Posted by: bob at June 27, 2005 10:58 AM
The comment about "no one is forcing an investor to be part of a regulated system" ignores the problems faced by many owners of small rent-regulated buildings. I spent eight years in the 70s-80s in a one-bdrm rent stabilized apt a couple blocks from the building featured in the article. The rent started at $250/mo. When I left it had gone up to $300/mo, and my friends thought I was nuts; my long-suffering landlord renovated the apt and got over $1000/mo for it after I'd left. Why did I walk away from that little gold mine when I could have spent a lifetime there? Because I had crunched the numbers and realized that there was no way my landlord was breaking even on the building, with five other stabilized apartments and him and his mother occupying the seventh. When he bought the building fifteen years earlier, it had a positive cash flow; but since then, the annual costs had far exceeded the legal rent increases. I couldn't figure out why so many stabilized tenants acted like they were entitled to live at their landlords' expense. And I decided not to get stuck tied to that apt for the rest of my life, wrangling with my landlord for better maintenance and adequate heat while living as a parasite courtesy of the city's rent regulations. Look at the tenants' complaint in this article: "We'll have to leave Manhattan!" Dreadful thought, but as we know, there's life in the other boroughs, and if it weren't for the city's regs, they would have moved elsewhere long ago. The problem for many longterm tenants in regulated apartments at this point is that they kept that entitlement mindset too long, bought nothing, and got priced out. If they'd looked at the inequity of the situation years ago and taken every dime they could save due to their artificially low rents, and bought something affordable (like I did - a then totally affordable CH brownstone with a couple rental apts that paid the mortgage) they'd be in a different situation now. While I realize that some tenants simply don't make enough money to be able to scrape together a down payment under any circumstances, I completely agree that a system should be developed to assist them, rather than inflict the costs of their support disproportionately on private owners. PS, I'm a liberal Democrat.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 27, 2005 11:02 AM
well, i agree with brownstoner. rent control as it is now sucks (rent stabilization is a different matter, Anonymous)
Sure it protects some senior citizens but they weren't always senior! They've been living there since they were hale 30-year-olds and now they have a two-bedroom that they don't need. it's nice for them but it's not fair and it's not particularly good for society.
And regarding the inheritance of rent-controlled apartments, I don't think that is illegal. To my (amateur) understanding the child just has to live in the apartment for two years prior to the lease being passed on.
Posted by: cristy at June 27, 2005 11:05 AM
I'm not going to get into the whole RR vs free market argument but I would like to inform ppl of the correct terms to use if they do want to get into it and the numbers.
There are 3 million rental units in NYC.
Around 1 million are free market, around 1 million are rent stabilized and about 60,000 are rent controlled. Rent controlled apts are not significant when talking about the effect on the overall rental market in NYC because they constitute such a small proportion of the total market. When most ppl talk about RC they are really talking about RS. When ppl talk about the $200 per month 3BR apts in the West Village they are talking about RC apts. RS apts tend to be more expensive because they were created more recently. Also RS apts in the outer boroughs tend to be much closer in price to the market rates and, in many cases, higher than the market rents so RS is not helping low income ppl in those areas.
You can get the stats from housingnyc.com
Read pages 3 and 4 this report to see the point about legal RS rent exceeding the market values
http://www.housingnyc.com/downloads/research/pdf_reports/ie-updated-05.pdf
Posted by: VDH at June 27, 2005 11:21 AM
Well said libdem! What an unselfish and enlightened way of thinking.
I often read these kinds of stories and wonder why ppl did not do what you did and use those savings to buy a place. OK, a lot of ppl could not but I bet many many ppl could have, had they not maintained this entitlement and cheap rental forever mindset.
Posted by: VDH at June 27, 2005 11:25 AM
I can understand how you could feel sorry for a landlord in the 70s who was hurt by rent regulations, but I don't understand how you could feel sorry for the landlord who bought a building after the regulations were imposed. These people bought the building only a few years ago, and know perfectly well how rent regulations will impact the value of their investment. It's clear this is nothing more than a scheme to make a windfall return by taking the building out of rent stabilization.
Posted by: re guy at June 27, 2005 11:41 AM
We agree that these particular landlords knew exactly what they were getting and don't deserve anyone's sympathy. Clearly they're just trying to do an end-run around the system.
Posted by: Brownstoner at June 27, 2005 11:53 AM
Thanks VDH for setting people straight regarding the differences between rent control and rent stabilization. It's hard to take anybody seriously on this subject if they aren't using the correct terms.
Posted by: Eric at June 27, 2005 12:01 PM
I also strongly agree with libdem. The system has caused harm to many tenants for exactly the reasons outlined. An entitlement system such as RC breeds dependency, which is never a good thing.
Posted by: BigBubba at June 27, 2005 12:01 PM
The regulations allow landlords to make improvements and collect increased rent based on formula of cost of improvement.
It also allows for hardship in case of small owners and their particular cash-flow.
No - the system is not perfect - and people can/do abuse it. But for most part I think has been good for NYC.
For the one who lived for 8 years in his regulated apt. and moved 'because he felt sorry for landlord' perhaps was able to buy because he
had apt. where he could save for downpayment.
That was my case - I had inexpensive studio and was able to save for down payment in '80s.
Now I am a landlord but of non-regulated apts.
Posted by: pete at June 27, 2005 1:19 PM
this link has a great analysis of how rent control may actually drive up rents (they lump RS in with RC).
http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-274.html
Posted by: chuck at June 27, 2005 5:15 PM
Rent control is soooo unamerican.
Posted by: eurotrash at June 27, 2005 5:56 PM
The inefficiency of rent control is illustrated in any freshman economics text...
Posted by: blabla at June 27, 2005 6:20 PM
Yeah, the Cato Institute, now there's a neutral fair-minded party.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 27, 2005 6:21 PM
It was around the passover dinner, that my dad mentioned to me that my "friend", Mr. Fred Ohebshalom, was featured in the NY Post for having the worst reputation as a slum/landlord in New York City.
I've only met with the guy once, when trying to "flip" him 50 condo units in a Downtown Miami waterfront project known as Cite. (I put flip in scary quotes because the building was of then, nonexistent, and I never had a financial stake in the project, other than trying to sell him onto the deal for the developer.)
So anyway, the story goes that he owns about 90 apartment buildings in NYC, and allegedly he does everything he can to rid the buildings of rent stabilized and rent controlled tenants. You see, because in NYC, we have this WWII-era emergency legislation (which in order to continue, must be renewed every other year, and has been since) which put a freeze on apartment rents all over NYC. It also alleges to protect the tenants, by making it close to impossible to evict them.
A building owner has limited recourse to achieve market price on the rental units. The general guidelines are as follows; when a monthly rent reaches $2,000, a unit can be converted into "free market" and the owner can begin asking whatever the market will bear, and begin to evict the tenants if they no longer want to pay the market price.
In a case where the rent is nowhere near the $2,000 mark, the owner can do several thing to increase the rent. If the owner makes improvements to the building, he can increase each rent by 2.5% of the costs for the improvement. The owner can also bargain with tenants, by paying them money to leave or to relocate to a different unit. The tenants may find it favorable to leave a unit in an otherwise vacant building, or maybe relocate to another unit since their rate was closely approaching the "free market" rate and anyway were going to be eventually evicted.
Even once that unit is vacated, it must remain so for a minimum of 2 years, in order to deregulate it. Only then can it be delisted from NYC's Division of Housing Community Renewal, the body which manages and regulates the yearly rental increases. For instance, the allowed increase this past year was 4%. It sounds like much, but than again some people are paying $250 per month in places where market rent is twenty times the amount. Note that this policy leads to thousands of apartment units being placed into a legal limbo, and prevented from being available on the market. This policy will naturally cause housing demands to go unmet, and keeps the supply costs high.
My "friend", Fred goes the battle-axe approach. His management company buys rent-stabilized/controlled buildings, which are relatively cheaper than buildings with free market units, on the hope that he can evict those low-paying tenants and take the arbitrage as profit. His first order will be to make sure that everyone pays their rent on time. Any short or missed payments and the eviction notices and legal papers start coming. He threatens them with lawsuits if they don't leave, tacking on the legal costs.
He also investigates the tenants, to make sure every thing is within the legal boundries. If they find irregularities, such as sublets, unoccupied units, illegal improvements, etc. they will sue for eviction. He is also creative in this regard; he will hire a crew to obstensibly install intercoms, fix electric services or plumbing, etc., but at the same time these crews will document any illegal things they notice.
Evidently the tenants (both legal and illegal) of these buildings are upset about these overzealous practices and have initiated lawsuits to stop the alleged harassments. They have even found a few local officials sympathetic to the cause, perhaps to counter the efforts of Fred and other shrewd landlords like him, and to punish them for having the gall to be so meticulous about enforcing the vaguerities* of the rent control laws.
Whats my point?
Readers of this blog probably know where I stand on this issue. But for the benefit of newcomers, I will reiterate my position on rent regulation- it's legalized robbery. The property owner should have the sole discretion to determine what rental rate he wants to charge for the units. Of course he must abide to any agreements he made with tenants in regard to increases, common charges, etc.
But some people, such as my brother-in-law (disclosure: he is a rental broker) have a confused notion over this concept. He will agree in principle that property owners who were effected by the rent control laws when they were first enacted are being victimized since their property rights are being infringed upon. But he has also thinks that someone who buys a building after the enactment, knows what he is getting; and so the new owner "agrees to the rent control laws", and therefore subject to abide by them.
This is the absurdity I wish to demolish.
If we are agreed in principle, that rent regulation are a form of legalized robbery, there is no room for assumptions about the moral sanction of buyers to the existing rent laws.
Let me give you a different scenario. A shop owner named Joe has a jewelry store on Neptune Ave in Coney Island, Brooklyn; the thick of a russian mafia territory. Every month like a good citizen, aside from his mortgage payment, he also pays a tributory to the local protection racket, in order so that his store and person isn't subject to arson, robbery, theft, busted kneecaps, murder, etc.
Now lets say Joe wants to retire and sell his shop to Michael- would you say that Michael gave his moral sanction to the mafia? After all he knew about the "protection" service prior to purchase, and therefore according to the moral sanctionists, he agreed to abide by them.
In the same fashion, there is no concept of implied moral sanction between victim and agressor, be it government bureaucrat or the common ruffian. Just because a person bought a property, or lives within a geopolitical system, it does not imply that he agreed to abide by the corrupt law system in place.
Posted by: iceberg at June 27, 2005 6:51 PM
Damn. Links to the Cato Institute? Rent control as "legalized robbery?" You people are completely fucking I-N-S-A-N-E.
Posted by: ah at June 27, 2005 7:44 PM
I'm a landlord with a couple rent controlled tenants in Soho playing about $100.00 per month in rent.
I have many other tenants paying around $600.00 per month in rent stabilized apartments, also in Soho. The yearly increases don't even begin to catch up to market rates. It costs me on average about $500.00 per apartment each month in expenses and property taxes to run the buildings.
A few days ago, I spent $125.00 to install a new security door lock on a tenant's front door -- more than the tenant's monthly rent.
Is the the system fair? Obiviously, not.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 27, 2005 8:36 PM
iceberg,
That was the best explaination of the rent reg system in NYC I have ever read.
thanks
Posted by: BigBubba at June 28, 2005 9:13 AM
Oh yes, everything you learned in Economics is absolute fact and can be directly applied to the real world.
If this guys 'RC' tenants pay only $100month and RS $600 there is most likely a 'history' behind these levels......somewhere down the line maybe
(and not saying current owner) rent increases were disallowed because services/maint. withheld or didn't bother increasing rents. And probably hasn't made a 1$ worth of capital improvements.
Those are hardly typical RC or RS rents.
So question - why Mr. Landlord did you ever make such a savvy investment?
And even if this claim is accurate - can illustrate that there are inequities. Does not prove that
purpose and effect of system has detrimental to city/citizens.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 28, 2005 9:40 AM
Are you kidding?
I'm the Soho landlord.
Of course I've made lots of major capital improvements and received the rent increases. I'm not an idiot. These are extremely valuable buildings.
I take very good care of them and live in one of them myself.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 28, 2005 10:17 AM
RS is currently mostly a subsidy for the wealthy or close to wealthy in Manhattan. In the outer-boros the VAST majority of the apartments have legal rents higher than market rents and RS actually provides a legal "authority" to raise rents every year.
The law is absolutly ridiculous, if anything the current "luxury" decontrol should be totally abandoned but I would favor vacancy decontrol - the idea that an owner cant charge market rate rents for a vacant apartment is beyond insane. However in order to provide stability to families and neighborhoods, stabilizing rent increases may make some sense.
Posted by: David at June 28, 2005 10:59 AM
There are few things that are agreed on as unanimously by economists as the fact that rent control / stabilization destroys affordable housing at a tremendous cost to the middle class and the poor. Here's an excellent summary with good links: http://www.chipnyc.org/Resources/outofcontrol.shtml
But, for all of us who are forced to pay these large subsidies, there is hope. Check out this web site: www.joshyablon.com. This guy is a friend of mine and he is trying to reduce the impact of these RS/RC apartments.
Posted by: JoshK at June 28, 2005 11:21 AM
The only people who defend NYC's rent regulation laws are those lucky enough to have rent regulated apartments.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 28, 2005 11:44 AM
Yes! I would love to see more articles and studies on this subject from apartment building owner trade groups and libertarian/right-wing political think-tanks!
Posted by: Harry Browne at June 28, 2005 12:48 PM
I'm defending the system and I'm not a renter.
Have just skimmed the Cato report (and Joshyablon idiotic claim can reduce rents in half).
Arguments by Cato are full of holes -comparing low rents of no control cities such as Pheonix, Houston and other places that bare little resemblance to NYC. Guess what folks - cost lots more to buy house, condo whatever here too -
How they forget supply/demand principles so quickly.
And also - gets lost in their argument that developers are free to build apts. here in NYC with NO CONTROLS.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 28, 2005 3:11 PM
I bet many people know tenants in rent controlled/stablized apartments whose income level makes a mockery of the law. I met a couple last weekend - both working professionals, no kids - who pay $600 rent and have ploughed the savings into a vacation home in the Hamptons! Yeah, maybe my post is somewhat prompted by envy but surely rent controlled/stablized apartments (for the purposes of this point I don't think the difference matters) should be allocated on a means-tested basis? I'm all for affordable housing for people who really need it but what about those, clearly, who don't?
Posted by: TW at June 28, 2005 3:17 PM
Defenders like to point out that developers are "free to build apt bldgs without controls". But that is a seriously flawed way to look at it. While technically true, developers have to build and price for a competitive market. They have to keep their cost structures in line with the competition. If the government artificially offers to lower development costs (thru tax incentives), this creates a situation where developers who opt out could be at a distinct disadvantage. The developers are only acting rationally in the face of a govt distortion of the market forces.
Participation in the govt incentive program does not equate to endorcement. If a gun is held to your head and you hand over the cash, that does not make you an accomplice to the crime. I know it's an extreme example, but WTF - rent regulation is an extreme policy.
Posted by: BigBubba at June 28, 2005 6:24 PM
This is really not a debate. There are few things that economists universally agree on - the failure of rent regulation is one of them. This is true from far right to far left and everywhere in between. Extensive reasearch has been done showing the price impact of these controls to renters.
Here's one from a left winger: http://www.pkarchive.org/column/6700.html
Imagine if 10% of the stabilized units were now free market. That would be 100K units. Look at how many active units there are in the paper on any given day. The price impact would be tremendous. But, you can find research that details it and controls for all factors and you will see how well done and straightforward the analysis is.
Unless you don't like facts. Then you're stuck.
Posted by: JoshK at June 29, 2005 11:18 AM
Also, as far as the nonsensical claim that people are free to build. Go try and buy a building in NYC and build it up. Good luck.
Somone just did that on the east side and had to pay each stabilized tennant in the neighboorhood of 1mm.
Posted by: JoshK at June 29, 2005 11:20 AM
This thread just goes to show how much the anti-regulation forces in our midst have infiltrated the debate on rent regulation. They make it out to be an all or nothing choice between the horrible inequities of our current system, and the beautiful fair utopia of the so-called "free market."
No one with a straight face can argue that our current system is fair and equitable. This does not mean the the free market is the only answer. If we, as a society, think that there should be some protection for renters, or that housing is not the same as widgets, then society should fairly allocate that cost. We already have a system in place where elderly tenants can apply for protections against rent increases. What's the difference you might ask? The difference is that the landlord does not pay for this, but it instead is paid by all of us in the form of tax relief for the landlord. To me, this seems fair. We know that the tenant is needy, because they are required to document this, and the landlord is not bearing the burden. I don't know why this couldn't work on a larger scale. And before you say it would be too difficult to administer, remember that the current system is very easy to adminsister, but to what end?
In the end, though, we will never have the debate required for any fair system of regulation to be enacted. The foes of rent regulation are not really foes of rent protections, but foes of any regulation at all. The free market is a religion to them, and they will not stray from the fold. As it stands, rent regulation is slowly being phased out, and there is no popular or political will to change the system. I don't know what it will bring, but I do know that the foes of regulation will have nothing to turn to if the society they longed for isn't exactly what they had in mind.
Posted by: not so fast at June 29, 2005 4:14 PM
Not so fast,
Us anti-regulation folks are those who are opposed to the use of force except in defense. There is no justification for the intrusion of government to forcefully rob owners of their rightful property, whether in the guise of rent control/stabilization, zoning laws, preservation efforts or anything else for that matter.
The free market thingie you mention is not a religion, it is a demand to end the insane use of economic intervention which only harms society in the long run.
Maybe you heard of the acronym, TANSTAAFL? Well, lest you think that its only the rich who will suffer under your misguided use of government coercion, it is those who advocate for such and enact such laws who cause the greater harm to the less-endowed, and make them suffer the consequences of your economic-illiterate folly.
Please care to refute the below supplied economic studies with something other than an ad hominem attack on the institutions or persons affiliated with the studies.
Posted by: iceberg at June 29, 2005 10:08 PM
You can be for quite a number of regulations and regulatory bodies without supporting rent controls. There has been a lot of good information posted here above that shows how dire the effects are - it's hard to refute and I never hear any pro-rent control person even attempting to.
You have to be careful of taking what is called a status quo bias, meaning that because we've had RC/RS, it must be good - or that we need something to replace it. These laws exist almost nowhere else besides NYC and SFO. And, strangely enough, both markets have the highest cost of living and have true housing shortages.
It's possible for the free market to fail for certain things, usually those involving what are termed "externalities". Housing should be regulated as far as fire safety and building codes - and it is regulated in that way in most cities.
Posted by: You've got to read the material at June 30, 2005 9:58 PM

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