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May 19, 2005

Out-of-Context Brownstones in Vinegar Hill

We drove through Vinegar Hill on Sunday on the way to Brooklyn Bridge Park and were reminded how fun it is to find pockets of charming brownstones out of context. In the 19th and early 20th centuries, Vinegar Hill was an Irish working class neighborhood (where many of the maids for nearby Brooklyn Heights lived). The area was cut off from the rest of Brooklyn when the BQE was built. Now that several of its streets are designated historic districts and Dumbo is booming, its fortunes have obviously changed. Does anyone know if any of these houses have been on the market in the recent past? How are they priced versus other brownstone nabes?

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Brooklyn Bridge recently had this listing for $1.1 - though not a brick or brownstone.
http://brooklynbridgerealty.com/display.cgi?mode=display_property&id=1756

There are so few houses in area - that one coming
up for sale is rare occurence. But I think wouldn't be any less than other downtown areas - especially since its really DUMBO and we know the prices the condos fetch.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 19, 2005 9:39 AM

Hi I actually just bought there in August of last year - 4 story brick good condition - $1,025,000

Posted by: bc at May 19, 2005 9:50 AM

Although one of the realtors I was using when I bought my house three years ago claimed that it "wasn't unheard of" for these houses to go on the market, I've been watching this neighborhood like a hawk for 4 years now and haven't seen any listings in that time (a few questionable frame houses, but thats it.) I ended up with a lovely "out-of-context brownstone" on a vinyl sided-block in Greenpoint--good term!

Posted by: Naomi at May 19, 2005 9:51 AM

Does anyone know if there's there any truth to the rumor that many of the homes in Vinegar Hill were bought up by a group, or community, of lesbians?

Posted by: Whitbo at May 19, 2005 9:54 AM

Cross-posted with bc...good for you!

Posted by: Naomi at May 19, 2005 9:58 AM

I heard that 67% of the neighborhood's real estate is owned by lesbian Jehovahs Witnesses.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 19, 2005 10:03 AM

That's funny, I heard it was transexual Zorastrians.

Posted by: mackey at May 19, 2005 10:06 AM

The frame house listed by Brooklyn Bridge sold some time ago...

Posted by: Anonymous at May 19, 2005 10:21 AM

We bid on a new building last year, they wanted a million for a 2 family plus basement. Right off the navy yard and next to the ConEd plant. We passed. But it's an interesting area.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 19, 2005 10:29 AM

Does it have the amenities of DUMBO, Ft. Greene, etc.?

Posted by: alex at May 19, 2005 10:46 AM

I love this area but it has all sorts of environmental issues (elec fields and such). I would be rather reluctant to live there with small children.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 19, 2005 11:20 AM

What exactly does "out of context" brownstones even mean?

Posted by: DelRey at May 19, 2005 12:56 PM

I checked out a small beat up two family on Clermont, between Flushing and Park (Ave?) about a year ago. It listed with Aguayo and Huebener in the $700's. I am not sure if it sold.

Posted by: bksqueeze at May 19, 2005 1:43 PM

Vinegar Hill is a strange, forlorn place. It has the feel of a Twilight Zone episode. In the last two years I've been watching the market, I've seen at least one 3-story brownstone listed for a little over a mil. Regardless of the new developments cropping up over there, you have to expect that the incursions and resulting burglaries perpetrated by the residents of the Farragut Housing Projects over on York will probably keep a damper on prices.

Posted by: Dick Bass at May 19, 2005 2:06 PM

"Out-of-context" we meant to refer to the fact that there are only a couple pockets of b'stones in the area that is otherwise dominated by projects on one side, utilities on another and warehouse buildings on another. So when you are approaching from any of those three perspectives and stumble across these houses, they feel out of context.

Posted by: Brownstoner at May 19, 2005 2:14 PM

http://www.bridgeandtunnelclub.com/bigmap/brooklyn/vinegarhill/historicdistrict/
More interesting pictures for vinegar.
It is intryging but i would never wanted to buy there (we have seen one house there 1.1 frame with comercial first floor - use as apartment illegaly - aparently there is no buissneses left in VH )

Posted by: malymis at May 19, 2005 2:33 PM

oy - Now curbed.com picked up on that lesbian takeover comment and has it on their website...
this is how rumors start.

There seems to be a significant new development -
don't know if rental or condo - some with garages - abutting the Navy Yard/ConEd - in Vinegar Hill - I think Evans/ Little street - but haven't seen any ads for it or ariticles yet.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 19, 2005 4:44 PM

Mr BrownStoner, have you seen the big mansion on the hill in V Hill?? Ship Captains house, rumor is sold for 200K in 70's to two Columbia professers.....

Posted by: lovevibe at May 19, 2005 5:31 PM

we backed out a deal to buy one of those little "carriage houses" around Little Street. I have literally never seen shoddier (sp?)) construction. I have seen crap -- but this was super crap.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 19, 2005 7:07 PM

Right - talk about 'out-of-context' - The Commodore or Commander's house - for the Bklyn Navy Yard - around the corner on Evans St.
You walk thru these quiet eerie streets - then turn and a big gate - a real driveway filled with some
collectable autos, green lawns, and a free standing white mansion...and you have to ask - How did this get here?
Is owned by researcher at Rockefeller U. I think they bought from the Navy.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 20, 2005 2:09 PM

i don't care who lives in vinegar hill....i am just furious at nyself for not making THE MOVE a few years ago when my husband i separated. damn! more bad timing. this is?was the nosr romantic area in NYC....it will always remain a dream i could never have.

Posted by: adrienne at May 20, 2005 7:51 PM

I have some Vinegar Hill photos at http://massengale.typepad.com/photos/new_york_miscellaneous/43.html

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Out-of-Context Brownstones in Vinegar Hill

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