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January 31, 2005
Ceiling Crashes on Elliman Open House
We sure can pick 'em! We just heard from a reader about how the open house at 142 Bergen (last Wednesday's House of the Day) yesterday went horribly wrong:
How's this for an open house? We're looking around the place--needs work, cosmetic and otherwise. We go into the kid's room. I notice a huge crack in the ceiling and point it out to one of the brokers and she says it's only minor thing, insisting the place is in good shape. So we proceed to the upper floor when we hear a loud crash! The ceiling caved in! It was ridiculously embarrassing and damn hazardous. We were with our 8 month old and had just been in the kid's room--could have caved in on us. Scary. Scary still was the debris fell directly onto the kid's beds. Covered the room in dust, debris, and who knows what else and left a gaping hole in the ceiling. This was a jammed packed open house and you can only imagine the impact this had on the buying frenzy...no pun intended. People were stunned at first then sort of giggling - everyone quickly recalculating their offer. Needless to say everyone got the hell out of there. The brokers were hilariously embarrassed. At the point $1.5 seems rather unlikely.
142 Bergen Street [Douglas Elliman]
Comments
And you know what? I betcha they got offers. Not for asking price, certainly, but when that ceiling crashed, somebody must have heard opportunity. Think about it: you doubtless now have a panicked seller (and agent). You have a house that shows hideously, if it shows at all. And you have a gaping hole that will drive down the price far more than the actual cost of repair. A hole in a ceiling will scare buyers away, but it's actually hardly the most expensive repair to make. Even if it's the result of a leaky roof -- even if you have to replace the entire roof, you could probably safely reduce you bid by tens if not hundreds of thou, which will be several times more than the cost of the fix. Some quick-thinking shopper may have grabbed themselves a bargain.
Of course, what do I know -- if several people there were thinking the same way, they could have got a bidding war. maybe the falling ceiling was a strategy!
Posted by: Anonymous at January 31, 2005 9:22 AM
I was one of the other people in the house when this happened. The most amazing thing was the listing broker's response. He didn't ask "Is everyone alright?" He didn't say "Well, that was scary!"
Instead he asked, "How many people were in that upper room?" Then he muttered, in an accusing way, "Well, I won't make that mistake again," and glared at us as if the ceiling collapse was our fault (for having four people walk into the upstairs room at the same time). I'm sure he was rattled by the experience, but still...
Posted by: Anonymous at January 31, 2005 11:43 AM
Anyone who was at this house please email me at lhgittens@hotmail.com
Posted by: Hasani Gittens at January 31, 2005 12:31 PM
We accualy were in this building for the open house but we left before it happend. I did notice a few more of cracks on the walls and i think that this problem could be more of the issue then just one hole in the celling. Who knows i am not an expert. But the point i was thinking oportunity for the moment but it was a moment only. I think i will pass on this one.
Posted by: p. at January 31, 2005 12:39 PM
They have had offers, despite the collapse. I was there before it happened, and had already ruled it out for a few reasons--prominent cracking in many rooms among them. The place is being re-shown this week while repairs are being made. It is a frenzy indeed.
Posted by: malymis at January 31, 2005 1:11 PM
My God! Is everyone gloating at the Ellimans' misfortune or thinking it was a plot? I know the Christmas spirit is five weeks in the past, but come on awready.
Posted by: tony scaduto at January 31, 2005 10:37 PM
Actually, we were told the owners have a number of offers, some at above asking. I'm not sure what it takes to turn buyers off these days - apparently more than walls cracking and ceilings falling into childrens' beds!
Posted by: Anonymous at February 1, 2005 9:04 PM
The owners just accepted an offer for 1.44
There will be no open house next sunday.
Douglas Elliman Brooklyn
189 Court Street
Posted by: Allan at February 2, 2005 1:48 AM
That is a sure signal that we all need to take timeout. Not so long ago that building would have been listed at $400K to $500K. In 1998 I sold a corner in 25 X 75 footer with 2 stores and 3 apts for $275K. Listen up folks we are the ones creating the Sellers market. And a lot of these brokers were not so long ago selling shoes !! what do they know about the real value of these properties??? Only goes to show the broker had no concern for the buyers or the true condition of the property in question. Buyers beware!!
Posted by: anonymous at February 2, 2005 10:31 AM
WOW!
That happened less than a block from where I used to live, 108 Dean St.
Technically, though, I guess I'm not that surprised -- on one of the other sides of my block (in the overgrown backyard gardens), the entire back wall of the block had peeled away...
I was paying $1000/mo for rent. And there was a reason for that. Ever see Joe's Apartment?
Posted by: Jake at February 16, 2005 6:41 PM
For a newspaper article, could anyone who attended the open house at 142 Bergen a few weeks ago, at which a plaster ceiling collapsed, please contact me as soon as possible at jfgill@nytimes.com? I'd also be interested in talking to anyone who visited the place after the open house.
Thanks very much. I look forward to talking!
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Does anyone know the name/telephone of the people that repaired the plaster ceiling at 142 Bergen street? Thanks
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