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January 25, 2005

Impact of the A/C Fire

C TrainAs a new homeowner in Clinton Hill, we weren't too thrilled to hear yesterday's news about the fire on the A/C line. We're not really sure what it means for real estate prices or the general momentum of these areas. Bed Stuy it's obviously a huge problem for; Clinton Hill, which has the unpopular G and is closer to the 2,3,4,5 in Fort Greene, is less affected, but still has to be impacted by it. Then again, there had been talk of cutbacks on those lines anyway. If it's really going to take 3 to 5 years to fix this thing, what does everyone think it means for these two nabes?
2 Subway Lines Crippled [NY Times]
C Sickness [NY Post]
C Line is Kayoed by Fire [NY Daily News]
Fire Suspends C Service [NY Newsday]
C Ya Later [Gothamist]




Posted by Brownstoner at 10:42 AM | Comments (12)
Categories: Neighborhoods

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If the V or some other train can continue to "sub" in during all of this, my guess is that the local blue line commute disruption will be limited to the southernmost downtown stops and the new route for Clinton Hill/Bed-Stuyers will pass along 6th avenue instead of 8th---not necessarily a bad thing depending on where your destinations lie.

It souds as if express A will be affected short term, with the promise of "normal" service in the forseeable future. Basically, may not be as bad as it first appears, particularly relative to the hit 8th avenue riders in Manhattan might take as well as further up in nabes such as W. Heights.

I'd like to see waht the MTA is saying after a weeek or so, though...Reuter may be freaking out. Other reports are giving much less disastrous predictions for repair time.

Posted by: mcteague at January 25, 2005 12:08 PM

V sub seems fine. Takes a little longer and you have to change at Hoyt or Jay. Inconvenient, not horrible though. Hopefully it will not take 5 years to fix.

Posted by: Anonymous at January 25, 2005 12:15 PM

Personally, I think it's a huge problem. Huge. I can't wait a half hour with a baby and a stroller... and then transfer..... ugh

Posted by: Anonymous at January 25, 2005 1:11 PM

my commute on the A from utica avenue to lower manhattan has been pretty good the last two days (a few minutes slower, but that's it). Hopefully, that's the worst of it - though the news coverage does make it sound scarier than my experience would indicate.

Posted by: anonymous at January 25, 2005 2:01 PM

Monday 7am at the Utica stop wasn't bad. I waited for an A that never came, but the local was running ok, and a mystery F train even made an appearance.

Posted by: jk at January 25, 2005 2:15 PM

From the NYT:

"An expert on the city's subways expressed amazement that a single fire in a confined space could have such a long-lasting impact. 'It seems astonishing that a single signal room would be so central to the operation of the line that it would take five years to recover from,' said Clifton Hood, a transit historian at Hobart and William Smith Colleges in Geneva, N.Y. 'That's about as long as it took to build that entire line of the IND.'"

Posted by: Anonymous at January 25, 2005 2:19 PM

Personally, I think the V is a LOT more convenient than the C in terms of getting to Manhattan. I'd be thrilled if the V became permanent. However, what I'd REALLY like is for the MTA to act like they're trying to fix the problem and make things easy for their customers, rather than not being at all sympathetic and acting as though we should all just "suck it up."

Posted by: Robin Lester at January 25, 2005 2:38 PM

I'm looking at purchasing a new condo in Prospect Heights at the corner of Washington and Dean streets. I would need to catch the A/C across Atlantic on Clinton Ave, what do you guys think? Will I experience a horrible commute?

Posted by: Jen at January 25, 2005 8:48 PM

jen, it depends on what commute you're used to and where you're going. if you're going to chelsea, you can take the V train since it will go on the C line, take it to west 4th, then transfer to the a/e to get to chelsea. it'll be a minor headache, but many other ppl will be in your boat, including myself. check ltjbukem.blogspot.com for pics of the condo.

Posted by: ltjbukem at January 25, 2005 9:15 PM

had a feeling the reaction was a little over the top...

nytimes: "transit officials said yesterday that service on the A and C lines could be restored to full capacity in six to nine months, dramatically revising their earlier prognosis that a fire in a Lower Manhattan signaling room would disrupt service on the lines for as long as three to five years"

breathe...

Posted by: mcteague at January 25, 2005 10:15 PM

Thanks ltjbukem. I checked out the pictures on the site. Very cool. I'm very excited about this project. Glad to hear that by the time I move in the A/C mess will be fixed. Nice to know we'll be geting a gourmet food store nearby...

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