Karl Fischer Build Rising up on 4th Avenue


How did we miss this! The 12-story, 107-unit Karl Fisher build is actually going up at 267 6th Street, at 4th Avenue. The DOB renewed new building permits this summer, and Karl Fisher is still listed as the building architect. (Here’s a rendering, but it’s back from 2008.) According to public records, the land transferred to the bank this March, so we doubt Issac Katan still has a hand in this development. It’s been three years since we last checked on this site; back then there wasn’t much happening.
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  • The lot directly across the street, on the southeast corner of 6th st. and 4th ave., is also under construction, and it looks like it’ll be a condo of equal, Novo-esque size. That one’s not quite as far along as the one pictured, but I’d guess that both buildings would be ready for occupancy within a few months of each other.
    The big question is: where are the kids in these buildings going to school? PS 39 the zoned school for both developments. A landmarked site, it is smaller than the other local schools, cannot expand, and has had a kindergarten waitlist for the past 2 years as it is. With 200 additional housing units from just these two buildings alone, unless they’re all studios and 1-bedrooms, there will be more kids than the zone can support.

  • itzak is toast, of course he’s not involved.

  • I don’t get why anyone would want to live on 4th Ave. Wouldn’t people prefer a sidestreet rather than this avenue, which is basically a highway?

  • I don’t get why anyone would want to live on 4th Ave. Wouldn’t people prefer a sidestreet rather than this avenue, which is basically a highway?

  • pet’, DOE zones are fungible. If a school cannot absorb any more students, DOE can change the catchment so kids are directed to other schools. Not that they do this particularly well, mind you, but that is the methodology.

    • True, g_man, but re-zoning doesn’t happen without a lot of noise and controversy, esp. given that every decent elementary in D15 is already overcrowded. There are a couple new schools on the horizon, but something tells me these apartments will be stocked with families well before those schools are a reality.

  • We came VERY close to buying an apt in the adjacent Milk Factory building 4 yrs ago. I did some massings in SketchUp to gauge how the patio would be affected by construction on this site and we decided not to get involved in the bidding war that erupted on the unit. I’m all for 4th Ave development, but I feel for the poor people that bought units in the Milk Factory that will now live in perpetual shadow.

    I also REALLY hope that bldg wasn’t grandfathered in w/o any ground floor retail requirements. That would be criminal.

  • Based on the permits – ground floor is “community space” not retail.

  • Really Dandelion you can’t figure it out? “Why dont people just live on a sidestreet”” are you serious?
    let me give you some reasons 1. They cant afford to be on a sidestreet (since they are generally more expensive and/or have limited housing choices) 2. They want a view of Manhattan (the views from the upper floors of these buildings are stunning) 3. They want new construction (much less new construction on sidestreets) 4. They want on-site parking 5. They cant AFFORD something comparable on a sidestreet(yes I said it 2x)

    FYI the Milk Bldg condo will not be in perpetual shadow since the Sun generally rises in the east, sets in the west and shines from the South. They used to be next to a gas station – they traded one lousy neighbor for a less lousy one – no sympathy needed.

  • Really Dandelion you can’t figure it out? “Why dont people just live on a sidestreet”” are you serious?
    let me give you some reasons 1. They cant afford to be on a sidestreet (since they are generally more expensive and/or have limited housing choices) 2. They want a view of Manhattan (the views from the upper floors of these buildings are stunning) 3. They want new construction (much less new construction on sidestreets) 4. They want on-site parking 5. They cant AFFORD something comparable on a sidestreet(yes I said it 2x)

    FYI the Milk Bldg condo will not be in perpetual shadow since the Sun generally rises in the east, sets in the west and shines from the South. They used to be next to a gas station – they traded one lousy neighbor for a less lousy one – no sympathy needed.