The Upstater: Brownstones, North

This week on Upstater, we’re covering real estate in and around Hudson, N.Y., a Hudson River-front city of about 7,000 people two hours north of the city. Among its attributes: a hearty stock of row houses and townhouses, some of which we’ve profiled for your gawking pleasure. For the price of a small one-bedroom in a Brooklyn brownstone, you can inhabit a four-story townhouse up here. (By the way, most of these are not technically brownstones, but are row houses, townhouses, or single-family homes so narrow and close to their neighbors that we’re counting them as such, even if they don’t have party walls; bear with us). We’ll also look at row houses in small cities across the river.

Our favorite of the Hudson row houses for sale is this lovingly restored Queen Anne on Warren Street — the main drag that leads down to the waterfront. It has only two-bedrooms inside its three stories, but it has three baths (one of which appears big enough to be a bedroom!), a beautiful kitchen, and a nice combination of updated interiors and preserved detail. And the price will surely appeal to Brooklynites, many of whom have relocated here: $495,000.

Lots more on the jump…

132 Warren Street, Hudson. $495,000. GMAP

 

One of the best things about this four-unit Italianate townhouse in Newburgh, N.Y. is its views: direct to the Hudson River. They’ve done a great job shining up the floors, though some of the renovation looks a bit Home Depot-ish.

But for the price tag, $229,000, you can afford to perform some upgrades. Yes, everything you’ve heard about Newburgh is true — it does have more gang violence than any other city in our state — but there’s a strong revitalization movement, and an incredible supply of beautiful historic homes. Check out the Newburgh Restoration blog for more information about the Newburgh revival.
170 Grand Street, Newburgh. $229,000. GMAP

 

Over in Kingston, you can buy a whole row of row houses for $349,000, and move with all your friends. 21-27 Henry Street in Kingston has four separate four- or five-bedroom units, all with connected front porches, original fireplaces, three stories, 1,800 square feet of living space.

Henry Street, aka Route 32, is not exactly a quiet block, but it’s not caked with traffic, either. The houses have been on the market for over half a year. If you’d like to go the landlord route, the broker estimates the annual income at $75,600.

21-27 Henry Street, Kingston. $349,900. GMAP

 

We wrote up this row house in Athens, NY, earlier this year, and it’s still on the market. A narrow place, with some updates inside and a rental unit on the first floor. Great live/work place, and it’s a block from the Hudson River.

It’s on one of the main drags in Athens, although even it’s busiest blocks are pretty sleepy. Athens has a beautiful, if neglected, downtown, and is directly across the river from Hudson and down the road from Catskill. If some of the hipsters from Hudson hopped over the river, it could be ripe for revitalization.
34-36 Second Street, Athens. $179,000. GMAP.

46 Comment

  • This house has no details to speak of. Hudson and Columbia County may have the most plentiful and amazing historic housing stock anywhere so a much better example could have easily been found. The prices are good too. But it’s two hours from NYC and the public schools aren’t the greatest; the one person with a child I know up there chose private. That said, it’s not as expensive as NYC private schools and the property taxes are reasonable there too.

  • yes, it looks like “lovingly restored” is not accurate. More like “recently remodeled”.

  • We’re looking at the Newburgh houses that go for under $50k. That one is expensive for Newburgh–for that price, you can get something with a lot more detail. Is that location really good? (for Newburgh?)

    • Heather, yes, Grand and Montgomery Streets are prime locations for the City of Newburgh. There are some beautiful mansions right near the waterfront in that area. What you are looking at is probably inner city homes that need lots of work. Then there’s also the Town of Newburgh which is totally suburban and more expensive.

      You can’t beat Newburgh’s architecture, but I’ve been saying it’s going to come back for about 30 years now.

    • Heather, yes, Grand and Montgomery Streets are prime locations for the City of Newburgh. There are some beautiful mansions right near the waterfront in that area. What you are looking at is probably inner city homes that need lots of work. Then there’s also the Town of Newburgh which is totally suburban and more expensive.

      You can’t beat Newburgh’s architecture, but I’ve been saying it’s going to come back for about 30 years now.

  • We’re looking at the Newburgh houses that go for under $50k. That one is expensive for Newburgh–for that price, you can get something with a lot more detail. Is that location really good? (for Newburgh?)

  • Heather, yes, Grand Street is a good street to be on in Newburgh. Many homes are mansions and other grand historical homes owned by preservationists – other homes still need a lot of work. As with any city things can change block by block.

  • That Hudson Queen Anne hasn’t been “restored,” it’s been gutted! Beautiful house though.

    I swoon for Newburgh.

  • The fireplace in Athens is stunning. Don’t see too many like that with the original finish any more.

  • I like the row in Kingston with the front porches. Unusual. And 75K a year is a pretty good rent roll for a property that could have a monthly mortgage nut of around $2,000.

  • I like the Kingston row house best, but Kingston is a pretty depressing place to live. And I don’t think if opted to “go the landlord route” you could rest assured they homes would always be rented and by people who are dependable and would make good neighbors.

  • If you call Kingston depressed, Newburgh is on life support. Although further from NYC I would rather live in Kingston, better food, an art scene and more recreation opportunities.

  • If you call Kingston depressed, Newburgh is on life support. Although further from NYC I would rather live in Kingston, better food, an art scene and more recreation opportunities.

  • Most of upstate is a financial basket case.
    The exception is the southern tier on the border with Pennsylvania, which is benefiting from the energy boom from that state’s gas fracking areas.
    New York has more gas reserves than Pennsylvania but of course fracking is illegal in NY.

  • I asked a friend who lives nearby about the Kingston row. He wrote, “I have noticed it… rt 32 heads down toward Rosendale and New Paltz. But there in Kingston where the row sits is in the midst of a very depressing ghetto. I cannot believe your annual rent roll is $75M. It’s gotta be all welfare. Also a lot of gang activity in downtown Kingston. A real shame for such beautiful housing stock…” Oh, dear. Sorry to cast a pall.

  • Notice not one person on the street in any of the pictures

  • I wouldn’t call the hudson valley a financial basket case at all.
    I am very familiar with the location of the row houses in Kingston…your friend calling it a ghetto probably lives in exurban artsy white ghetto of highfalls, woodstock or the like. The row houses are not in great location I agree but Kingston is not a depressing place to live as other commenter says ….or he is easily depressive person and needs meds.

  • no one here is saying that Upstate is depressing, we are saying it is depressed economically. That’s just common knowledge. It is also true that there are plenty of millionaires who have estates and weekend houses upstate -especially in the gold coast areas on the river between NYC and Albany. But towns like Kingston and Hudson and Newburgh are pretty poor by and large.

  • one person did say Kingston was depressing and you said upstate was financial basket case. As in any older community with aging housing stock it will house a greater proportion of lower income than the larger community.
    But to blanketly call the city depressing or ghetto is snobbish and overgeneralizing. Kingston has higher median family income, per capita income and far lower % of people living below poverty line than Kings county.

  • That area of Kingston is probably the most depressing part of town, near Broadway, but I do think your friend is exaggerating a bit, Cara. Kingston is ok. Like most of upstate, it’s just not a happening place. You want happening? Stay in the city.

    And riiiight, Minard, it’s all a dump expect for the fracking areas. Surrrree.

  • That area of Kingston is probably the most depressing part of town, near Broadway, but I do think your friend is exaggerating a bit, Cara. Kingston is ok. Like most of upstate, it’s just not a happening place. You want happening? Stay in the city.

    And riiiight, Minard, it’s all a dump expect for the fracking areas. Surrrree.

  • Minard’s just jealous because he doesn’t have a country home

  • Dave you are sixty years old. You have no family. you have no partner. Your stuck in your twenties when a prostitute could make you happy. You are a pathetic creature in many ways. Why do you insists on taunting me on line?
    I am happier than you. I have more than you. I have a better vocabulary than you. Goodness knows I am better liked than you.
    Dave, for heavens sake shut up!
    You are a ridiculous dirty old man.
    A benighted Republican of the old school.
    Go to Pennsylvania and live out your old days shooting squirrels and paying Pizza delivery boys for sex. Yechhh!

  • Don’t forget to look in Haverstraw, New York – 1 hour by ferry and train (35 minutes by car): http://www.HaverstrawLife.com There’s a lot more than Columbia County and the east side of the Hudson River. Newburgh has tons of potential, often overlooked. The City of Hudson commute is Amtrak only – really, check out Haverstraw.

  • LOL, Minard.

    A few things about me…

    I’m 56. i just retired. I just bought a Bentley GT Coupe. I actually have three homes and a partner in Philly whom I’ve been with for over 14 years. I’m sure I’m far happier than you are. I’m also not overweight like you (since we are making personal attacks).

    Yes, I enjoy a nice hustler every now and then. I suspect you don’t get any at all. But really, i don’t care. I enjoy taunting you because I know you can’t take it.

    And no one enjoys your bitchy comments

  • And yes, I’m a Republican. What Obama is doing to this country with his left wing agenda needs to be reversed and fast. I’m very sorry I ever voted for him.

  • And yes, I’m a Republican. What Obama is doing to this country with his left wing agenda needs to be reversed and fast. I’m very sorry I ever voted for him.

  • “Your stuck in your twenties when a prostitute could make you happy… Why do you insists on taunting me on line?

    I have a better vocabulary than you.”

    Yes but your grammar and punctuation leave a lot to be desired!!!!

    • Minard, Dibs is well-liked & doesn’t commit sophomoric solecisms of spelling & grammar. It’s too bad he’s a republican but other than that he’s a stand-up fellow. I am really disappointed in you, Minard.

    • Minard, Dibs is well-liked & doesn’t commit sophomoric solecisms of spelling & grammar. It’s too bad he’s a republican but other than that he’s a stand-up fellow. I am really disappointed in you, Minard.

  • Aw c’mon guys. Let’s not do this. Please.

  • Aw c’mon guys. Let’s not do this. Please.

  • When Minard learns to comment in a constructive and thoughtful way instead of condescendingly and catty and downright mean (the recent Insider), then I’ll stop. Snark is one thing but his style is usually just nasty. Until then, he needs to learn to take it if he dishes it out

  • I consider both of you my friends, and I really wish both of you would stop. It really doesn’t matter who said what to whom, first, or who made the worst and most offensive personal comments. You both got some really mean and nasty zingers in there, and now you should retire from the field of battle. Both of you look childish and silly, and the original high moral point of the argument was lost long ago. You don’t have to like each other, but the rest of us don’t enjoy this, at all, and it really has no place on this, or any other thread.

    Mother Montrose has spoken!

  • look, a lot of nasty stuff said but calling someone a republican (even if true)
    is really really low and should not be uttered in polite company.

  • look, a lot of nasty stuff said but calling someone a republican (even if true)
    is really really low and should not be uttered in polite company.

  • Now this is what I call an interesting little conversation. Keep it cookin’ !!!

  • hansdel…come on over to http://www.lifeinbkln.com and yuck it up with us…just like the old Open Thread that used to be here

  • DIBS, I will check out the link and maybe dip my toe. Did you really buy a Bentley? I also recall you recommending someone on a past post who stripped your woodwork and doors. Got contact info for that person?
    Btw…agreed on President Obama. We are on the road to becoming Europe. Not the right direction.

  • I’m sad to see two of my favorite commenters fighting.

  • hans, in case you don’t come over there, her name is Inez Foose 917-912-6312