Closing Bell: Country Living Hits Brooklyn

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The map above is part of a Country Living feature called “Brooklyn’s Small-Town Charms.” Here’s part of the piece’s intro: “Today, Brooklyn still feels more heartland than Big Apple, with ribbon-worthy pie cafés hanging out shingles next to soda shops and general stores. To make navigating this supersized Mayberry manageable, we planned day trips around three of our favorite areas — Greenpoint and Williamsburg; Atlantic Avenue, Carroll Gardens, and Red Hook; and Prospect Park and Park Slope (highlighted on map) — then homed in on the best spots to shop, eat, and explore.” Brooklyn as a “supersized Mayberry”? OK.
Brooklyn’s Small-Town Charms [Country Living]

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  • I just vomited so hard that it came out both ends.

  • not a very impressive list.

  • daveinbedstuy

    Country Living?????? What a load of crap.

    Atlantic Avenue?????

    I guess they’ve never actually been to either Brooklyn or Mayberry.

  • Calling 11217! Your favorite antique store made the map.

  • hah – they have a link to a yelp map to see everything on the list.

    first thing i thought when reading the list was “they totally just searched yelp for the most popular places in gentrified brooklyn neighborhoods”

  • rh

    What’s with these hipsters and their beards? Enough already! It’s not a good look!

    And yeah, go back to your rural life if that’s what you want. Leave the city to those of us who appreciate an urban environment.

  • quote:
    “Today, Brooklyn still feels more heartland than Big Apple, with ribbon-worthy pie cafés hanging out shingles next to soda shops and general stores.”

    this is what happens when we leave our borders open to moonfaces :-/ seriously, there NEEDS to be a cap on immigration here from the midwest. why does this never come up? why is always mexicans who people complain about? they aren’t the ones destroying neighborhoods and making them as bland as apple pie (as the article insinuates)

  • rh

    Rob, I guess we can enforce that once we secede from the rest of the USA.

  • All these Midwestern fools need to take their beard and flannel wearing asses back to the cornfields.

  • East New York

    “this is what happens when we leave our borders open to moonfaces :-/”

    What is this “our” stuff? You’re not from Brooklyn. You’re in the same category as the author of the Counytry Living article and the “moonfaces” you so often talk about.

    I don’t hear any real Brooklyn people talk about “moonfaces.” Basically, we don’t give a sh*t who comes into Brooklyn. They can’t stop our party.

  • “supersized Mayberry” love it

    who is barney fife?
    who is aunt bea?

  • “Basically, we don’t give a sh*t who comes into Brooklyn. They can’t stop our party.”

    True indeed.

  • I’ll cop to being Aunt Bea.

  • Can we control our borders just once and send Rob back to the cornfields or wherever he came from?

    Please?

  • rh

    I give a sh*t. They’re making my party uncool.

  • for real hipsters and beards, think more portland or san francisco than chicago, no?

  • ENY, i was born in jersey city which is more NYC than most of brooklyn. im only railing against midwestern and southern moonfaces. i have no problems with people from california and the east coast.

    *rob*

  • “i have no problems with people from california and the east coast.”

    lmao – assholes from los angeles in nyc are the absolute worst!

  • sorry, but i was always taught not to trust people from the middle of the country.

    *rob*

  • daveinbedstuy

    LOL, diehipster.com just did something on the Mast brothers…read the comments….

    http://diehipster.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/ironic-chef-mast-bros-edition/

  • East New York

    By rh on February 24, 2011 4:47 PM

    I give a sh*t. They’re making my party uncool.

    **

    Your party is NOT happening if out-of-towners can impact it in any way. Brooklyn people don’t worry abouyt stuff like that.

  • mast bros chocolate is disgusting

  • rob – why? i don’t get it. have you been to portland? it’s the land of really really doing nothing (except knitting). midwesterners typically work their asses off. i don’t see these types of places as being midwestern. san francisco is full of people that are all “from the farm to the table” even when they live smack in the middle of the city and own 2 cars and work for some big corporation.

    NYC is the center for photography, art, advertising, publishing, theater and music. where should be go who want to work in these industries?

    stop being such a hater, you’ll live longer, and nj? really? that gives you bragging rights?

    i have to go, so you can have the last word.

  • did they mention the small town rents too?

  • I just wish they would be a bit more careful about their neighborhoods. Nu is in downtown Brooklyn or Boerum Hill NOT Carrol gardens!

  • East New York

    By Butterfly on February 24, 2011 4:49 PM

    ENY, i was born in jersey city which is more NYC than most of brooklyn.

    **

    We’re not talking about NYC. We’re talking about Brooklyn. And to the Brooklyn people, immigrants from Jersey City are in the same category as “midwestern and southern moonfaces. You’re all a bunch of out-of-town rubes to us.

  • daveinbedstuy

    Does anyone think the readership of Country Living will ever step foot in any of these places????

  • quote:
    stop being such a hater, you’ll live longer, and nj? really? that gives you bragging rights?

    lol what bragging rights? it’s not like i moved here and tried to drag nj culture along with me like these fools do!
    that’s the point!

    *rob*

  • I always love these discussions, because inevitably if somebody is from the midwest, they are somehow not welcome in Brooklyn, even if their parents are from Brooklyn or whatever, but if you are an immigrant from Mexico or New Jersey, somehow that is ok? Such a stupid discussion. People come to Brooklyn from all over the world, even from shitholes like Jersey City, for all sorts of reasons, and I thought what made Brooklyn great is that they are all welcome here without judgment. Of course, in reality, Brooklyn does have one thing in common with Mayberry — it is provincial as hell even if it pretends it isn’t.

  • Let me get this straight Rob, people from the midwest can’t bring midwestern culture here, whatever that means anyway, and I think maybe you don’t know yourself, but you don’t mind Mexicans bringing Mexican culture. Do I understand you correctly? Personally, I find certain “types” of people in Brooklyn pretty annoying, but I think it is mostly because they are privileged trustfund brats, not because they are from somewhere else.

  • That explains why Rob is often such a douche. Jersey City? Hah. F’ugly pieface.

  • some of you are very insecure, angry people… lol

    *rob*

  • rh

    Maybe it’s a generational thing, (I’m 45) but I gotta agree with Rob on this one. NJ was only slightly more bridge and tunnel than Bklyn was when I was growing up.

    My old school friends love to complain about newcomers. It’s a party when we’re all together, but it gets lonely when I’m the only native in the room.

  • Right, it’s someone else’s issue, nothing to do with yourself.
    Whatever, ugly Jersey pieface. Oh sorry, thats F’UGLY Jersey pieface.

  • So true, DH–Mast Bros chocolate is bad and ridiculously expensive. The only thing good about it is the pretty paper wrappers. Now NuNu–that’s some good chocolate!

    And Diner? Truly the lazy requisite listing on any BK list, despite the fact that’s been going downhill for quite awhile.

  • proud jersey pie face!!!

    *rob*

  • tinarina, I disagree about Diner. A bunch of us here had a great brunch there only a few weeks ago.

  • Brooklynites (born and bred) are much more acceptable to change, most of the haters I imagine are not true Brooklynites, just chill and enjoy life. Thank you for the infusion of money, but, I’ll still sit in my airyway (oh, excuse me, my garden) and watch the world go round.

  • “And Diner? Truly the lazy requisite listing on any BK list, despite the fact that’s been going downhill for quite awhile.”

    i stopped going for a good 6 months because of the downright nasty service and meh food. went back a few times recently (brunch) and it was good again, and they have some new servers that don’t make me wanna cry.

    marlow has fallen off tho.

  • “So true, DH–Mast Bros chocolate is bad and ridiculously expensive. The only thing good about it is the pretty paper wrappers.”

    lmao – yeah. it seriously tastes like dirt. the dark chocolate/serrano pepper one was seriously one of the most unappetizing things i’ve ever put in my mouth!

  • NUNU chocolate is THE BEST!

    Went to Diner this past weekend and I thought it was very very average. Not giving them any more of my money…

    My favorite brunch place these days is James in Prospect Heights…amazing EVERY SINGLE TIME.

  • > some of you are very insecure, angry people…

    Hello, black kettle.

  • “seriously one of the most unappetizing things i’ve ever put in my mouth” — considering what has been in there, that really must have been disgusting.

  • > My favorite brunch place these days is James

    Thanks for reminding me, I need to go back there.

  • “Went to Diner this past weekend and I thought it was very very average. Not giving them any more of my money…”

    me too – what did you get?

  • East New York

    lol what bragging rights? it’s not like i moved here and tried to drag nj culture along with me like these fools do!
    that’s the point!

    *rob*

    **

    You’ve got about as much culture as a parking meter.

  • “me too – what did you get?”

    The homemade chorizo sandwich (which I’ve had before). It was not only way too tough this time (and bland), but the waiter we had was so effing rude and slow, I’ve just had it with that place. I don’t remember a place in recent memory with such terrible service.

    My dining companion had the burger and he said he much preferred the one we had at Thistle Hill Tavern last week.

  • “You’ve got about as much culture as a parking meter.”

    You mean porn, beer, cigs and being nasty isn’t your idea of culture, ENY??? For SHAME!

  • yeah 11217 – that doesn’t sound unlike many of my visits. can’t defend it and not lose my cred!

    if you wanna see bad service check out Roberta’s! such a shitshow (but insanely fun, always)

  • Wow — I’m surprised at all the hate here, even for this blog. I think you’re all missing the real point of the article, which in fact highlights what most of us love about living in Brooklyn: that you can live in real neighborhoods, with local merchants who care about what they sell and know their customers as neighbors, while still living in the art, theater, media, finance, etc. capital of the United States.

  • You guys are ridiculous. You are taking this article way too seriously. Also it’s a great list of Brooklyn’s best businesses. The author lives in Brooklyn.

  • “Does anyone think the readership of Country Living will ever step foot in any of these places????”

    No.

    But some investors will create chain stores that mimic them and bring them to wherever Country Living subscribers live.

  • quote:
    . Also it’s a great list of Brooklyn’s best businesses.

    no, it’s not. look at that map. it’s essentially the entire Moonface Frontier of brooklyn. where is the other 75% of it? i think you meant to saying brooklyn’s most overHYPED, most overPRICED establishments.

    and quote:
    that you can live in real neighborhoods, with local merchants who care about what they sell and know their customers as neighbors, while still living in the art, theater, media, finance, etc. capital of the United States.

    lollerskates. do you really think these people interact with most of their neighbors? um, no. they are beyond clannish and cliquey.

    *rob*

  • also i think it’s best people just be able to take a joke with stuff like this.. (personally im not trying to offend anyone), these topics are just way surreal and way too funny not to sorta mock

    *rob*

  • “more heartland than Big Apple”

    I don’t buy it, although George Washington Plunkett did long ago observe that

    “a Brooklynite is a natural-born hay. seed, and can never become a real New Yorker”.

    http://books.google.com/books?id=q3SlQoxj_4UC&pg=PT49&lpg=PT49&dq='your+Brooklynite+is+a+hay+seed&source=bl&ots=neSVeDNn_Q&sig=AxVhD_fDaNef7OXzFvmzgEFmDpk&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false

  • “lollerskates. do you really think these people interact with most of their neighbors? um, no. they are beyond clannish and cliquey.”

    On this point, *rob*, I disagree with you. Just look at the diverse group of Browstoners who hang out together.

  • “also i think it’s best people just be able to take a joke with stuff like this..”

    With this I wholeheartedly agree.

  • Rob,
    I was born and raised in the midwest, though I have lived away from there longer than I lived there by now. Flannel shirts and apple pie are not ‘midwest culture.’ There is no midwest culture in Brooklyn. There is some people taking little bits of midwestern food and clothing, but that ain’t midwestern culture, and everyone should be glad about that.

    Expensive pie and giving a shit what other people wear is contemporary Brooklyn culture.

    Midwest culture includes:
    Taking your boy out of school on opening day of deer season to go hunting.

    Military service.

    Jesus.

    Hard work for low pay.

    Fishing with bait.

    You won’t see much of that in a hipster cafe. I’m not complaining, or defending the midwest, I’m just saying that only in Brooklyn do folks like you sit around and complain about what kind of pie someone eats and what they’re wearing.

    Actually, caring too much about someone else’s fashion is the closest to the nosy, churchy midwestern culture that Brooklyn gets, but in the Midwest that is usually the job of the old ladies.

  • (ooooh i never make fun of what people wear). just what they charge people for the crap they made. seriously, you can look at any of my posts, im not one of those obnoxious fashion police. (trust me, my badge would be revoked, stat)

    *rob*

  • Snort! I think Rob was just called a little old lady!

  • quote:
    Snort! I think Rob was just called a little old lady!

    well at least i dont go out dressed like one to “flea” **markets** buying 400 dollars snatchcakes and selling breast milk cheese slices!

    oh snap, no i dinnnnnnt!

    *rob*

  • “well at least i dont go out dressed like one”

    No, you just go out wearing a Hannah Montana hat, pajama bottoms, 2 different color socks, and a rat fur coat, and you carry a Miss Kitty bag and a giant pink balloon to make it easy to spot you.

  • If I’m from the midwest but prefer places like The Islands (during the week) and Kaz An Nou (weekends) does that make me a self-hating moonface?

  • quote:
    No, you just go out wearing a Hannah Montana hat, pajama bottoms, 2 different color socks, and a rat fur coat, and you carry a Miss Kitty bag and a giant pink balloon to make it easy to spot you.

    how dare you out me like that!!!! it’s not MY fault the value stores and dollar stores have jacked up their prices since the moonface invasion! grrrr!

    *rob*

  • “oh snap, no i dinnnnnnt!”

    I love how Rob thinks he’s just slayed someone.

  • lollerskates. do you really think these people interact with most of their neighbors? um, no. they are beyond clannish and cliquey.

    *rob*

    Bullshit. I personally know that the ones in my immediate area (such as Farmacy, Holler and Squall, and Jalopy) know tons of people in the neighborhood and are very involved in the community. There is nothing snotty or clannish about them. Would you like to be introduced so that you can get out from behind your Brownstoner persona and interact with actual humans instead of making assumptions about “moonfaces”?

    The idea for this article is rather contrived but many of these businesses are among my faves. And the pie at Four and Twenty is fantastic. (Small town does not equal midwest. Many of the people in this round-up are from New England and the South, actually.)

  • “how dare you out me like that!”

    Oh yes, this news must be a severe shock to people. PUH-lease. We all talk about stuff you wear, in the OT, all the time!! THIS IS NOT NEWS!!

  • “how dare you out me like that!!!!”

    LMAO, *rob*. I didn’t NAME you in my last post. What makes you think anyone would know I was talking about you.

    His “Grrrrr” tells me he was just joking, cobble.

  • quote:
    Would you like to be introduced so that you can get out from behind your Brownstoner persona and interact with actual humans instead of making assumptions about “moonfaces”?

    sure, why not! it will be like when E.T. tried to phone home!

    *rob*

  • hmmm – I am curious as to what the reading demographic is for Country Living?
    Well we can look at it this way: Tourism has picked up ten fold in the last 2 years with people coming from the UK and Europe so now I think Brooklyn is being served to the rest of the country as a “quaint” place to visit…. even if we who live here don’t like it..

  • quote:
    Tourism has picked up ten fold in the last 2 years with people coming from the UK and Europe so now I think Brooklyn is being served to the rest of the country as a “quaint” place to visit…. even if we who live here don’t like it..

    hmmm.. you may be spot on with that… ive been working in soho for 10 years now and eurotrash is just something people that work in the area have had to put up with for a VERY long time… but it invades where you actually live, gahhh.

    *rob*

  • gem, we’re in the OT. > > >

  • *rob* = Ugly American.

  • Hey, Snark! I emailed you an invite a while back. Any chance you’ll join us at Montero’s on March 11th?

  • rob -yes they now invade where we live which causes shop owners to charge more

  • quote:
    *rob* = Ugly American.

    ah, stfu, i dont even vote. im ugly tho.

    *rob*

  • “so that you can get out from behind your Brownstoner persona”

    Carol Gardens, CarrollGardened (nka CGar aka CarGar and occasionally CatGar) here. It’s really not a persona. With *rob*, what you see, er, read, is what you get.

  • > ah, stfu, i dont even vote.

    You also don’t appear to know the meaning of the phrase “ugly American.”

    Per Wikipedia: “Ugly American is an epithet used to refer to perceptions of loud, arrogant, demeaning, thoughtless and ethnocentric behavior of American citizens mainly abroad, but also at home.”

    Alrighty then, I’m STFUing for the evening.

  • oooh yeah, ugly americans are terrible people, but ugly canadians are WORSE! well the ugly french candians. good lord, could there be a worse lot of more obnoxious snobby windbags?

    *rob*

  • Hah. French Canadians are many things (quirky, eccentric, stubborn) but snobby ain’t one of them…

  • quote:
    Hah. French Canadians are many things (quirky, eccentric, stubborn) but snobby ain’t one of them…

    really… hmm.. well they sound that way. maybe it’s a cultural misunderstanding thing. i know for a fact they HATE HATE HATE HATE when you say you dont speak french :-/

    *rob*

  • French people from France would say they don’t speak French either ;-). Word order and pronunciation is different (like UK English vs US English but prob more of a difference).
    French Canadians like to say that they speak an older version of French…

  • i’ve never encounted the rudeness from any kinds of brits that i have with the french (canadians). the french are bad too, but i feel that is expected. i always thought french people living in canada were just ghetto or something.

    *rob*

  • “i know for a fact they HATE HATE HATE HATE when you say you dont speak french”

    Only if they think you’re English Canadian (and therefore expected to be able to speak French).

  • I know it’s late, and no one really cares, but have any of you ever read Country Living? It’s a decorating magazine mostly, with articles about decorating your pad in a relaxed country/antique/Shabby Chic kind of way. Half the time the homes are in the Hamptons, upstate NY, the Berkshires or California. They’ve even had a NYC apartment or two. It really has very little to do with the Midwest, or any specific location. It’s about a lifestyle: more easy going, home cooking, small town, pumpkins on the porch at Halloween,homemade cookies out of the over, comfy couch and cocoa, cut down your own Christmas tree kind of magazine. That appeals to a very large segment of people, all across the country, including in cities, and the copies of the magazine disappear from the shelves here in the city, as well as in Mayberry.

  • Would you all STFU!

    I’m trying to sleep over here and all I hear is this incessant plathering about Brooklyn, Pie Faces, MoonFaces,
    Moonpies, Moonies, Moo Cows, Moose in heat, Mood rings, Mood enhancers, Moot points, Mumia Jamal, Moog synthesizers, Mookie Wilson, Mumbai, Musaka,
    Restaurants serving overpriced food with overwrought attitude, Hello Kitty, Goodbye Yellowbrick Road.

    GOODNIGHT!

  • I was wondering if Country Living was the home dec mag. Thanks, Montrose.

    I will admit I did have a bit of twee overload after looking at all those photos. But not to worry, I live right by Broadway, an effective antidote.