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  • My nomination for FGVOTD (we so need one).

    http://tinyurl.com/27bw2uo

    How old could she be? Too funny that she gets the lyrics right for “jockin’ my style, they try to copy my swagga…”

    ROFL

  • I had a dream last night that one of my roommates joined me in the shower.

    Turns out she had a penis.

    And I liked it.

    Hiya Snappy!!

  • “My nomination for FGVOTD”

    Here we go! Deja vous all over again.

  • jessi, that sounds like the kind of dream I would have, but mine are usually the other way around.

  • Tre interesante, CGar – so in your dream, the dude has lady parts?

  • Hola Jessi! Sounds like you may have repressed sexual urges towards your roommate! Perhaps I should start a blog of my own where folks can ask me about dreams, advice, etc. I’ll call it, Ask Dr. Snappy :-)

  • jess, in my dreams, the dude just turns out to be a lady. Tre confusing! Explains why I’m still single.

  • Yeah – it wasn’t actually one of my current ones – but who knows? I love lawyers that take that whole Juris Doctor thing seriously.

  • CGar —
    Not judging your dreams… but somehow women with peens seems less shocking than a man with a vajajay.

    (And, please note, I used adorable euphemisms to avoid an early start of “raunch hour”)

  • CGar, wait til M4L sees this!

  • Before I go (sheet shopping time!), I gotta ask a question. You all have heard about the beverage tax that may be imposed in NY? Ok, so I heard an ad against it on the radio this morning. One of their main arguments against it was that it would affect jobs in NY. Huh??? I went to their website to try and find out how they link jobs with a soda tax (nobeveragetax.com), but I’m not finding a sufficient answer there…here’s what they say about it…

    “Jobs are at stake:

    * The beverage industry currently supports more than 160,000 good-paying jobs in New York, totaling some $6.7 billion in wages. These are jobs held by hardworking New Yorkers all across the state in manufacturing, distribution, and retail.
    * Jobs in the beverage industry are good jobs, and include many union workers.
    * The non-alcoholic beverage industry in New York State has a direct economic impact of $7 billion per year and supports an additional $18 billion in economic activity.

    Q. Could a beverage tax increase damage New York’s economy?

    A. Without doubt, a tax increase could do serious damage to our already fragile economy. The beverage industry supports 160,000 jobs in New York communities large and small, providing a direct economic benefit to the state economy of nearly $7 billion and an indirect benefit of $25 billion. A tax hike on beverages would put at risk good-paying jobs with good health benefits for many hard-working New Yorkers – hitting them in both their checkbook and their paycheck.”

    And again…huh? How the hell does the consumer paying a few extra cents for a bottle of Sprite translate to jobs at risk??? WTF

  • Ha! I actually forgot about the “Juris Doctor” thing, Jessi! So I am a doc after all :-)

  • Snappy, glad you’re feeling better.

    LOL, jb, on the JD!

  • Arkady

    Snaps – I think the argument is that people will buy less so production will dwindle & workers will be laid off.

    CatGar – It’s not just gender issues that are confused: deja vu, tres.

  • ty, please allow me to clarify: In my dreams, the guy does NOT have lady parts. Nor does the lady have guy parts. I step into the shower, turn over in bed, whatever, perhaps expecting a guy, and it turns out to be a woman. Are we clear? No tranny dreams for me. Not that there’s anything wrong with that!!

  • Thanks Cargar. My brains (as few as I’ve got) are intact :-)

  • I think it’s really cute how badly you want to be gay ;)

  • oh PLEASE a 5 cent tax on a can of coke is not going to put someone in the the damn poor house. however, 13 dollar packs of cigarettes may very do that. there needs to be an across the boards tax on stuff. why not make an organic tax? if those freaks are willing to already pay outrageous prices for outrageous claims, they won’t mind paying more. in fact they probably would like to pay more!

    oh yeah, and get the FCC to tax texting.

    *rob*

  • Well, if that’s their argument, I think it’s a poor one and they are jumping to unsupported conclusions. Look, for example, at the ever increasing taxes levied on cigarettes. We all howled when they cost $5 per pack, shuddered when it hit $6, bawled like children at $7, on up to the current $10-11 per pack we pay now. But the bottom line is, we kept paying it and continue to pay it. Is Phillip Morris out of business? Nope. I think the beverage companies need to check themselves on this one.

  • Biff Champion

    When I get in the shower, I can barely see my own parts.

    Forget about trying to see someone else’s!

  • more4less

    JB, CGar has been officially on team Hetero for a while already. He just needs some fine ass to seal the conversion.

  • Arkady

    I heard yesterday on the radio that the soda tax was going to be levied on a per-ounce basis & the figure being quoted was 10 cents per.

    Dibs – How’d the electrical work go?

  • “why not make an organic tax? if those freaks are willing to already pay outrageous prices for outrageous claims, they won’t mind paying more. in fact they probably would like to pay more!”

    I like it! It’s a luxury tax!

  • Cgar is totally straight.

  • the loss of jobs is a threat from pepsico which has headquarters in westchester county. that is why they have been able to block tax thus far.

  • “Cgar is totally straight.” — hey,no need to insult the guy, he has enuf problems as is.

  • donatella

    Do we get to complain about our commute or did I get in too late? What time is it?

  • The best advert against the soda tax is the one with the hispanic looking mom in the kitchen claiming the taxes on sugary drinks would make shopping more expensive for middle class families.

  • i think we should just increase the income tax – but put most of the burden on the upper tax bracket. If they don’t like it they can move to CT. Less douchebags roaming the city.

  • more4less

    my smart mouth nearly got my ass kicked this morning on the train. a dude was nudging me and giving me the eyeballs. one smart ass remark leads to another and I threw out the following line “I already had my breakfast and have no interest to pound another corn puff”. that’s when his 2 buddies said let’s kick his ass. I didn’t know these 2 big dudes nearby was his buddies. had to resort to the legal shield via “you throw the first punch so I can get you arrested”. I wuss’d out. but 3 against 1 is 100% getting my ass kicked

  • “CatGar – It’s not just gender issues that are confused: deja vu, tres.”

    ArCATy, it’s been a long week, so I’d add confusion over your email to my list. Whuh? Huh?

  • $.10 / oz? That can’t be!!! A 2 liter of soda equals about 67 fluid ounces, give or take. That means a $2 bottle of soda would have a tax of $6.70!!!! I don’t think that will fly, even with those who support the beverage tax.

  • LMAO M4L – great line!!

  • Pete, what is Pepsi saying? That they’ll close up shop in NY if the tax is levied?

  • “I think it’s really cute how badly you want to be gay ;)”

    LMAO jessi

    “He just needs some fine ass to seal the conversion.”

    I’m thinking that may be just the thing I need, m4l.

    Yo, DH, ‘sup??

  • Any family truly worried about grocery bills etc, shouldn’t be buying enough soda to care about a tax. The shit’s expensive as it is. Drink water or buy some $.15 packs of Kool Aid. Cripes!

  • Oh, wait, will packs of Kool Aid be included in this tax? I mean the powder packs? Will the tax per oz be based on how much that pack produces (ie one pack usually makes 2 quarts, 2 quarts equals 64 ounces, so a $6.40 tax on a $.15 pack of Kool Aid???)

  • East New York

    You never know who you may be messing with, M4L. That’s why the first reaction should always be to try to brush it off. Fighting it out is the last resort.

  • “Cripes!”

    I love that word. Reminds me of the time Rob was imagining Cobble trying to get directions in Russian and the only word she could understand was “cripes”!

  • more4less

    DH, if it wasn’t packed rush hr traffic, think they would’ve kicked my smart ass mouth. 3 vs. 1, I would definitely resort to the “flight” game plan but doubt it’s success as I’m not as in-shape & fast as before

  • benson

    “By dirty_hipster on June 25, 2010 9:57 AM

    i think we should just increase the income tax – but put most of the burden on the upper tax bracket. If they don’t like it they can move to CT. Less douchebags roaming the city.”

    WOW!!!!

  • more4less

    Snappy, think like a true street hustler girl. if these taxes go thru, you just got some juicy mkts – under-ground soda and cig mkt. just smell that cashflow girl. just those school kids for their juice boxes could be a lucrative biz

  • donatella

    I sat next to a guy who had breath so bad it could kill flys. Then he decided to SING to his Ipod (expelling even MORE breath) Whitney Houston. I almost passed out. M4L, glad you emerged from that; I think you made the right call.

  • East New York

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    Isner or Mahut or both to be used in an advert for any of (by end of 2010), Bodog.com’s odds:

    Fitness Centre Chain 7/2

    The Rabbit (better than any man, however long he may last) 5/1

    Red Bull 6/1

    Hummer 8/1

    Andrex (soft, strong & very long) 10/1

    Viagra 12/1

    Duracell 16/1

    Long Life/UHT Milk brand 25/1

    BP (It never stops) 100/1

  • I’m not at work today…so no complaining about commuting.

    I think implied threat to move bottling jobs if pass tax.
    Somehow beverage industry already got proposal to change so only soda and not all the sweetened non-carb drinks taxed.
    I read 18% tax – not .10 per ounce.

  • M4L, I highly doubt anyone will be standing by a car trunk saying to passersby, “Yo, I got Sprite. Sprite, Coke, Pepsi man. I got that sugga yo! Tree dollas just for you. Just for you, mami.”

  • LMFAO at the thought of a packet of Kool aid being 6 bux.
    i say, go for it!

    *rob*

  • Oy…I’m bad at figuring out percentages. Pete, what would 18% tax on a $2 bottle of soda equal?

  • Pretty soon smoking a nice cigarette and drinking a can of diet coke is gonna be quite the luxury.

    Maybe I’ll just switch to crack.

  • if you’re paying $2 for bottle of soda….you’re not good at shopping either.

  • benson

    Snappy;

    If you go to the big malls in New Jersey on any given weekend (especially Paramus, Secaucus and Woodbridge), you’ll find tons of New Yorkers who go there to buy their clothes, tax free. While they are there, they buy gas (about 40 cents/ gallon cheaper) and stock up on cigarettes, which are also cheaper. Should this tax pass, they’ll stock up on soda too, hence hurting NY’s distributors.

  • “i think we should just increase the income tax – but put most of the burden on the upper tax bracket. If they don’t like it they can move to CT. Less douchebags roaming the city.”

    Rob is not a douchebag.

  • rf

    No tax on diet coke.

    From a NYS press release:

    Elements of the Governor’s proposal are:

    The sugar-sweetened beverage tax as proposed in the 2010-11 Executive Budget would remain at approximately one cent per ounce – an excise tax of $7.68 per gallon for beverage syrups or simple syrups and $1.28 per gallon for bottled soft drinks, powders or base product.

    The current State and local sales tax would be eliminated on low-calorie soft drinks (10 or fewer calories in 8 ounces) and bottled water. The State would hold local governments harmless from the revenue loss that would result from the sales tax elimination.

    The State and local sales tax based would be expanded to include coffee and tea drinks bottled for sale if they contain more than 10 calories in 8 ounces. Low-calorie coffee and tea drinks would not be included in the expansion and would remain exempt from State and local sales taxes.

  • I know about that Benson, but many families/individuals can’t go somewhere else to get clothes/food/etc.

    Pete, how much does a 2 liter cost? I’m guessing here, as I don’t buy them.

    LOL DH, soon it will be cheaper to have a crack habit :-)

  • Ok…$.01 per oz is far more reasonable.

  • rf

    Benson, there’s no sales tax on clothing in NYC.

  • more4less

    Snappy, gotta eat girl. peddling soda is better than other stuff.

  • “Benson, there’s no sales tax on clothing in NYC.”

    So long as you buy stuff that costs less than a certain amount.

  • benson

    Snappy;

    I understand that many folks can’t go to Jersey. On the other hand, many can, and they will do so, and that will hurt our distributors.

  • “Benson, there’s no sales tax on clothing in NYC.”

    Under $110 right? They’re considering getting rid of that too

    Seriously though, don’t all you rich brownstone owners wear like uber expensive 150 dollar t-shirts?!

  • benson

    “Benson, there’s no sales tax on clothing in NYC.”

    Incorrect. There is no sales tax on clothing under $110, which is why folks go to Jersey to buy big-ticket items: suits, evening gowns, etc.

  • Well if it turns out to be $.01 per oz or the flat 18% (finally figured out the math on that!), it’s a very nominal tax that will hurt no one. I’d even support either of those tax options (if a tax must be levied at all). The gas you’d burn to save on some soda would be foolish and a total loss (unless you fill up the trunk and back seat to the point where your car is sagging ghetto style).

  • rf

    No sales tax on clothing and shoes that cost less than $110. There is a county tax in Nassau on clothing so I think it costs 4 percent to shop in Roosevelt Field rather than in the city limits.

  • Biff Champion

    “Seriously though, don’t all you rich brownstone owners wear like uber expensive 150 dollar t-shirts?!”

    My t-shirt of choice is the plain white v-necked Banana Republic tee. Do jackholes still spend a shitload of money on those Ed Hardy shirts or have they finally realized how laughingly ugly they are?

  • IMO, the only thing worse than an Ed Hardy shirt is a Von Dutch. (insert barfing noise here)

  • Ok…apologies for starting a semi-serious topic in the OT Lounge :-) Now it’s time for sheet shopping and a final head check. Later!

  • well, that is NJ’s reasons for being broker than NY.
    I’ve always said if raised their gas tax to what everyone else pays…they’d solve their budget problem pronto.

  • rf

    So true, Pete! I am much more likely to take advantage of cheap gas in NJ than to buy $110+ clothing when visiting the Garden State!

  • benson

    Folks;

    Here is what goes on in many households in southern Brooklyn, most of Queens and Staten Island. Almost all folks in these areas have a car. Many live in homes that have storage space. Dad needs to go shopping for a suit. Here is their choice:

    -a) take the subway to Manhattan, drag kinds along and lug suit home. Suit will probably cost more in Manhattan and will have a 8.375 sales tax on top of that.

    -b) drive to Jersey. Suit costs less, and there is no sales tax. While you are there, you can go to Costoc and fill up, also cheaper than in Manhattan. One can stock up and load it in the car. While there, fill up with cheaper gas, and buy some butts while you’re at it.

    What choice do you think they will make?

    If this tax passes, expect them to add soda to the list of things they will buy at Costco.

    Our idiotic leadership in Albany thinks that people have no options and will just pay the taxes. Rather than make the tough call on reforming civil-service wages and benefits, they once again try to soak the taxpayers. How did that work out with the tax increases they passed last year?

  • benson

    Pete;

    Yes, we see how raising the gas tax has solved NYS’s problem! We’re not broke, are we?

  • more4less

    there’s only 4 or 5 states in our lovely UNION that is NOT broke.

  • daveinbedstuy

    Ceriello Electric actually called when they were on the way and arrived on time. As much as he could do, he couldn’t find anything that would have tripped the main breaker but instructed me as to what to do if it persisted but more importantly if it occurred with greater frequency.

    $90 wasn’t bad for an emergency call.

  • Emily, darling, if you are reading the OT, you need to go fix up some less-than-perfect reporting over in the 232 Court Street thread, PLEASE!!

  • East New York

    “the plain white v-necked Banana Republic tee”

    Not inexpensive.

  • does anyone know how much cigarettes are in new jersey? what about california? i’d ask my grandmother to mail me them from south carolina, but for some reason that seems sketchy to me, plus she only recently found out i smoked and got really mad at me.

    *rob*

  • benson

    Rob;

    If I am not mistaken, cigarettes are about $2/pack cheaper in Jersey.

  • daveinbedstuy

    despite being an ardent anti-tax Republican, I’m all for the beverage tax, just like the smoking tax.

    A. Most importantly, I don’t buy either. PS it’s a sugar tax, not a beverage tax.
    B. It’ll get people to stop consuming what’s bad for them.
    C. It minimizes raises on other taxes that DO affect me.

  • more4less

    ENY, Biff was talking from relative term vs. absolute. for absolute inexpensive V-neck (as I look at what I’m wearing that wife bought), HANES baby. now I want to upgrade to those new “No Bacon” ones they’ve been pushing

  • donatella

    Re state taxes on purchases, this is more of an issue now that people are buying more and more on the internet and not paying state sales taxes in many cases. Cigarettes and soda, no, but clothing, electronics, housewares, books, yes. Basically we get a pass on most stuff now (I believe that the law on the books says that if the internet retailer has a physical presence in the state where the buyer is then the tax is charged…).

    I am amazed now at how my buying has changed. I rarely go to stores. I buy housewares on line, clothes (though not all), electronics, lots of stuff I check prices and go with the cheapest buying on line. And I get a pass on tax on a lot of this stuff.

    This is a gap that the states are desperate to fix.

  • donatella

    The Ceriello guys are the best. I had them come a few times, but one guy in particular, Frank was very patient explaining all of my wiring issues (some screwy wiring arrangements from bad former reno). They did a big job for me and very professional and respectful.

  • Thanks, Emily! : )

  • benson

    “The Ceriello guys are the best.”

    Let’s be frank. When it comes to contractors, aren’t all the good ones Italian?
    ;-)

  • Arkady

    I bought cigs on line but a law went into effect yesterday making it illegal for the post office to ship them to or from any state. Guess I’ll start getting them from Switzerland.

  • Oops, wrong thread. ^^^^

  • quote:
    B. It’ll get people to stop consuming what’s bad for them.

    not really. i dont think the government should be allowed to dictate what is morally right and wrong for our bodies. the cigarette tax is not going to make me quit smoking, i enjoy it too much. it just means that i will be bringing my own iced coffee to work instead of buying it at the street vendor, which hurts the street vendor who probably isnt a smoker.

    *rob*

  • donatella

    By benson on June 25, 2010 11:09 AM

    “The Ceriello guys are the best.”

    Let’s be frank. When it comes to contractors, aren’t all the good ones Italian?
    ;-)

    Seems that way, Benson. :]

  • donatella

    You have no idea how frustrating I find smoking. I hear you Rob but it drives me nuts. I feel like doing missionary work outside of all the bars and offices where people are smoking, standing on a soapbox exhorting people to quit. But it is useless and it is just some misplaced rescue impulse, then I feel vaguely depressed.

  • “I bought cigs on line but a law went into effect yesterday making it illegal for the post office to ship them to or from any state. Guess I’ll start getting them from Switzerland.”

    Really? I placed a big order last week, but they get shipped in from the UK. They are sent in a pretty non-descript evelope. Hope they make it through!

  • “i dont think the government should be allowed to dictate what is morally right and wrong for our bodies.”

    Sure I agree with you, just as long as when you get lunch cancer and emphysema from smoking and you’re a big fattie with heart problems from drinking coke all day and you have a sucking chest wound from some other stupid thing you aren’t going to ask for my tax dollars to cover your medical costs. But anyone who thinks medicare, medicaid, and now government funded health insurance should cover those costs (and they do, and it’s basically impossible for them not to), needs to suck it up and pay.

  • daveinbedstuy

    Let’s be frank. When it comes to contractors, aren’t all the good ones Italian?

    I thought that was only masons & iron workers????

    Funny story…I had an irish (old country, but young guy) contractor for my fabulous ensuite master bath. All the rough-in work was done by the Irish guys but when it came to the important subs (plumbing, electic and of course plaster) they were all latin Americans, some of whom i assume were not legal!!!!

  • East New York

    “I feel like doing missionary work outside of all the bars and offices where people are smoking, standing on a soapbox exhorting people to quit.”

    Kind of like a Cigarette Jehovah’s Witness?

  • If they want to raise revenue – make weed legal and tax the hell out of it. problem solved.

    **DH for Governor**

  • “If they want to raise revenue – make weed legal and tax the hell out of it. problem solved.”

    So long as the potency is disclosed (like an alcohol %) then I agree.

  • more4less

    need to hit lotto tonight. sick and tired of getting out bid by all-cash offers

  • quote:
    Sure I agree with you, just as long as when you get lunch cancer

    probably from all my vinegar sandwiches :(

    *rob*

  • benson

    I am not against the idea of consumption taxes. In fact, I think that we under-tax consumption (in fact, we subisidize it too much), and we over-tax production (income).

    Having said that, I am against the proposed tax increases because it is yet another example of Albany putting off the reforms that are need with regard to spending, particularly in the area of the civil-service.

    If someone can justify to me why more than half of the LIRR conductors can retire with pensions over $100K, plus paid medical insurance, then I’ll be willing to consider tax increases.

  • more4less

    DH, dont forget casinos with sports books too

  • “I am not against the idea of consumption taxes. In fact, I think that we under-tax consumption (in fact, we subisidize it too much), and we over-tax production (income).”

    Wouldn’t it be much easier to balance their budget if they just cut spending across the board and got rid off all the asinine entitlement programs this state has?

  • “DH, dont forget casinos with sports books too”

    yeah man – NYC would rule if you could gamble and blaze.

  • “Despite being an ardent anti-tax Republican, I’m all for the beverage tax, just like the smoking tax.

    A. Most importantly, I don’t buy either. PS it’s a sugar tax, not a beverage tax.
    B. It’ll get people to stop consuming what’s bad for them.
    C. It minimizes raises on other taxes that DO affect me.”

    * * * * *

    Well, DIBS, at least you’re honest! I wish that more anti-tax Republicans would acknowledge that they are just against the taxes that affect THEM.

  • ” lunch cancer”

    Hungry, lech?

  • benson

    DH;

    You’re preaching to the choir when it comes to entitlements!

  • “I wish that more anti-tax Republicans would acknowledge that they are just against the taxes that affect THEM.”

    SNORT!!

  • daveinbedstuy

    benson, you are certainly correct about the spending and the abuses. But I’m a pessimist and those things are never going away as long as there are unions and politicians. Therefore, tax what I don’t consume.

    Selfish, yes. rational economic actor, yes.

  • donatella

    By East New York on June 25, 2010 11:33 AM

    “I feel like doing missionary work outside of all the bars and offices where people are smoking, standing on a soapbox exhorting people to quit.”

    Kind of like a Cigarette Jehovah’s Witness?

    Yeah, but those Jehovah Witnesses are too bland and boring and do they ever convert ANYONE?? I prefer the old fashioned screamers, a cross between the old fashioned Irish Catholic priests and the Baptist ministers. Screamers, baby! You’re gonna BURN!! MEND YOUR WAYS AND REPENT.

  • “DH;

    You’re preaching to the choir when it comes to entitlements!”

    yeah – i realized after I submitted that I sounded a little conservative there. **runs for cover**

    seriously though – shit like the cigarette tax are just nickle and dime-ing poor people. This tax won’t raise any additional revenue since many people will: a) quit smoking b) get them out of state.

  • benson

    “Well, DIBS, at least you’re honest! I wish that more anti-tax Republicans would acknowledge that they are just against the taxes that affect THEM.”

    Why what a BRILLIANT argument!!! I confess, I confess – I’m against the beverage tax because I am addicted to Cherry Coke!!!

  • “Yeah, but those Jehovah Witnesses are too bland and boring and do they ever convert ANYONE?? ”

    Back when I was in HS in the burbs – I was playing hooky one day and there’s a knock at the front door. This SMOKING hot blonde chick is there and starts doing her shpeel. I was so distracted by her hotness I didn’t even realize she was a Jehova’s Witness. About 5 minutes in I’m like “oh shit, jehova’s witness!!”

  • infinitejester

    The typical conversion rate over a year’s service as a missionary is two people. It’s more of a cultural/spiritual development process for the missionary instead.

  • more4less

    can I at this point just start crying that my Knicks (& alternate NETS) will strike out on lebron sweepstakes given Chicago & Miami just got super juicy via more cap space cleared yesterday

    cry me a river!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    really cant wait till football season starts (not fully buying into my Mets being legit yet) to give me my sports fix

  • infinitejester

    The firee is getting fired off-site this weekend, by the outsourcing company. He just works full-time onsite which was I was going to have to get involved.

    Last night I made a lovely speech. I went to the closing reception for the disadvantaged teen intern program we’ve been having company-wide. I had three interns here and all the supervisors were getting up talking about their interns. I arrived late and one of my interns asked me to say something nice about her, so I went and signed up to speak. “I’ll put you last” the M.C. said. The people were talking for upwards of five minutes, like this:

    Person 1: “My intern made posters! Blah blah blah so much fun to be with!”

    Person 2: “My interns were so funny! We did this and this and this…”

    .
    .
    .
    Person 13: “My interns and I are totally BFFs!”

    Finally it was my turn to speak. The assistant CEO of my firm had inexplicably sat through most of this.

    Jester (making it up as I went along): “You know, for most of you this has been a generational step forward. Most of you never thought you were cut out for being a successfuo person in life, having a real, professional, corporate job. This internship has shown you differently. Blah blah blah.”

    Big round of applause. I’m so good at my job.

  • donatella

    Good for you, jester.

  • Jester – i saw this guy on Jeopardy the other night and he looked like you. I think he won.

  • “I’m so good at my job.”

    And modest, too! : P

  • infinitejester

    I once asked a guy if I’d seen him at a local comic book store. He replied, “No, it wasn’t me, but I’m an archetype.”

  • “My t-shirt of choice is the plain white v-necked Banana Republic tee.”

    Polo from Century 21. I called Snappy from the underwear aisle and she MADE me buy v-necks. [Don't anyone tell Snappy, but I also bought crew necks.] Undershirts, as many of you know, have transformed my life (TMI, I know, so you’ve told me), and God knows I love Snappy more than life itself, but, Biff can pull off v-necks, NOT me.

  • infinitejester

    One of my interns, when she received her $750 stipend, gave $500 to the Haiti Relief Fund. The audience gasped when I told them that.

  • East New York

    “A. Most importantly, I don’t buy either. PS it’s a sugar tax, not a beverage tax.
    B. It’ll get people to stop consuming what’s bad for them.
    C. It minimizes raises on other taxes that DO affect me.”

    * * * * *

    Well, DIBS, at least you’re honest! I wish that more anti-tax Republicans would acknowledge that they are just against the taxes that affect THEM.”

    **

    He’s not that honest. If he was, he’d have left it at “C.” He really doesn’t care about A and B.

  • East New York

    “Most of you never thought you were cut out for being a successfuo person in life, having a real, professional, corporate job.”

    Is this the ultimate measure of success? Sounds a bit condescending.

  • Hey, Dave! My posting is spotty today because work is crazed (do these people not KNOW it’s Friday in the Summer???) so in case I miss you (nh), I just want to say, pleasant journey to you!

  • “”Most of you never thought you were cut out for being a successfuo person in life, having a real, professional, corporate job.”

    Is this the ultimate measure of success?”

    Well, according to my own ego at the moment, yes, it seems to be. But no, it shouldn’t be.

  • more4less

    the older ladies (35 and above) who were showing off their hard bod, round & round of applause from me. much appreciated. I respect & appreciate that more than the hot bod’s of young ladies who has super high metabolism on their side (for now). see tons of folks with “get away Friday” attire – guess hamptons will be swampped big time and pray you’re going there via helicopter else stuck in traffic

  • infinitejester

    That was just for the purpose of retelling here on the OT. I actually said something involved about them not being slackers anymore and to realize they can be ambitious.

  • East New York

    OK, IJ. But “disadvantaged” shouldn’t mean they are slackers, or stupid or unambitious.

    I take “disadvantaged” (how you described these kids) to mean they come from poor households (economically). In many cases (although not all) that has little to do with their relative intelligence or ambition. Are these kids just poor, or are they truly “slackers?” If they are just poor, you’re kind of talking down to them.

  • quote:
    One of my interns, when she received her $750 stipend, gave $500 to the Haiti Relief Fund. The audience gasped when I told them that.

    they gasped? please, i would have donate 700 if i was getting rent checks from mommy and daddy too. interns blow.

    *rob*

  • donatella

    Jester, I am sure it came out great. If you get a bunch of successful, generous adults getting together to share their knowledge and their time with young people for the sake of their learning, you are going to get good results. I really admire the fact that you do that.

  • more4less

    Rob, wouldnt doubt you would contribute to relief fund but not buying you would give 500 out of 750 if someone was paying your rent

  • “please, i would have donate 700 if i was getting rent checks from mommy and daddy too. interns blow.”

    Typical bitter response from you, Rob. These kids are clearly motivated to learn something new. They took a non-paying job to do it. It’ll look great on their resumes. And they’ve learned about an area of work that may or may not appeal to them in the long run but they took a chance, showed up and did well.

    Why do you have to sh*t on everyone and anyone?

  • infinitejester

    I think I said, “No one can ever tell you you’re a slacker.” Was intended as a quick story that I’m proud of because I’m terribly tongue-tied. If they were offended or talked down to, they didn’t tell me when they thanked me afterwards.

  • Well, it does suck when someone can take a “better” job for free as an intern because someone else is paying their expenses when another kid, just as worthy, cant take the internship because they need to get a job that pays.

  • quote:
    Well, it does suck when someone can take a “better” job for free as an intern because someone else is paying their expenses when another kid, just as worthy, cant take the internship because they need to get a job that pays.

    thank you! and what’s up with 30 something year old interns these days!?!

    *rob*

  • more4less

    JB, but one cant blame that intern who can work for free. besides, there’s lots of good paid internships available to the really really smart ones.

  • and these are not “kids” they are adults. im so tired of 28 year olds referring to themselves as kids. are teenagers the new toddlers!? infants are embryos!? grow up!

    *rob*

  • donatella

    I am not saying jester, but sometimes there can be a real underestimation of “disadvantaged” kids everywhere. That is the beauty of the Catholic schools or any school that raises the bar HIGH for all the kids.

    Even though it seems unrelated, that is one of the reasons I LOATHE the Brooklyn Museum, which dumbs down everything to be popular with the “community”. But everything drips condescension, as though the scholarship associated with the incredible richness of their collection is out of the range of the people in the community.

  • more4less

    really? 30 something interns? what industry is that?

  • Fine, blame the companies that aren’t paying younger people to come in and learn about a new line of work.

    But don’t sh*t on people that try to get ahead and learn something new.

  • more4less

    Rob, have to harp on you today. am disappointed you’re not applying yourself more (ie expect more from straight A student) but moaning about interns who’s willing to work for free to advance themselves.

  • infinitejester

    My last g/f was a 33 year old intern at a clothing design company.

  • quote:
    really? 30 something interns? what industry is that?

    magazines, blogs, publishing, television and video, museums, etc. half of bushwick and williamsburg are 30 year old free labor interns

    *rob*

  • infinitejester

    Working with teens a lot of my peers try to be older brother/older sister type and cool. I go the other way and act like teens are this completely foreign group, like, “Ok, I can’t possibly know what’s going in your life, but here’s the run of the place.” Works very well.

  • I’ve said enough. Anything more will simply turn into a a “Rob is a mysteriously entitled ass” rant.

  • quote:
    My last g/f was a 33 year old intern at a clothing design company.

    :-/

    *rob*

  • “Rob, have to harp on you today. am disappointed you’re not applying yourself more (ie expect more from straight A student) but moaning about interns who’s willing to work for free to advance themselves.”

    If Rob were to take a non-paying internship, how would he pay his bills? Life sucks sometimes and isn’t fair, that’s all.

  • donatella

    Rob, Hard work, kids trying, adults helping them, striving for self development……NOT BAD…..

  • benson

    Cobblehiller;

    While I wouldn’t go as far as *Rob*, I wouldn’t be so sanguine about the internship thing, having seen it up-front myself.

    A good number of interns in corporate America these days are the kids of some higher-up’s friend or neighbor. They are able to round out their college or job application with a bullet-point that is not available to a person with no connections.

  • tho i guess it might be understandable to be an intern if you totally switch careers to see what it’s like.. but i swear there’s a gazillion 30 something year olds walking around who are career interns!!! and they all have nicer / bigger apartments than teachers!

    *rob*

  • “Well, it does suck when someone can take a “better” job for free as an intern because someone else is paying their expenses when another kid, just as worthy, cant take the internship because they need to get a job that pays.”

    I have no idea WHAT you guys are talking about, but I happened upon this and totally agree jessi. When I turned 16, my father said something to the effect that “Play time is over. And now you’re going to learn the value of a dollar and what it’s like to work for a living.” And I was very, very fortunate that he paid my tuition (EXCEPT for one summer I tried something different, which he referred to an my “non-productive summer”), but I worked every summer, every vacation from that day forward, some summers I worked 2 — and 1 summer 3 — jobs.

  • “Life sucks sometimes and isn’t fair, that’s all.”

    Truer words were never spoken, jb. “No one ever said life was supposed to be fair. At least no one ever said it to me.” –Big Chill

  • benson

    Cobble;

    As an example: I once had a boss who gave an internship to his orthodontist’s kid (who was also his neighbor). In return for this favor, the orthodontist gave my boss’s kid free braces.

  • Yes, benson, thank you for the lecture. I know you think I’m some entitled trust fund liberal unemployed slacker asshole. But I did actually work in the corporate world for many years. And saw the kids of higher ups appear for summer internships. And also watched them drink a lot of iced coffee, in between planning their very important weekends.

    That’s not what we’re talking about here. We’re talking about good kids getting an opportunity to see from the inside what a certain field of work is like. And apparently, they did well. So why crap on them!?

    I don’t appreciate companies that many use interns as a way to get free labor. But that’s a different conversation.

  • more4less

    JB, Rob is a smart dude whose laziness sometimes masks that intelligence. straight A’s in college is a nice feat. one would think Rob could attend more if that’s what he chooses to do. but that’s his choice – ie he happy with his life. Dont go moan about others who want a little more in life and is willing to take a free internship. that’s why I’m harping on him.

  • Rob, apologies, just using you as an example –

    “Dont go moan about others who want a little more in life and is willing to take a free internship. that’s why I’m harping on him.”

    M4L – how could Rob do this? Who would pay his expenses?

  • benson

    Holy $hit!!

    Cobble: please get some R&R this weekend!!!!

  • Also, not at all begrudging these kids – they aren’t taking away work from someone else. Sounds like an after-school educational program.

  • slopefarm

    I’ve definitely seen what benson describes. I am sometimes involved in interviewing, and I perk up when I see a resume of someone working while getting good grades. I know that person can manage and prioritize the complexities of the job. I would expect to see less on the intern/extracurricular front in such a case. Even someone with an eye-catching internship, I still want to know what was expected of them, what they’ve learned and what judgment they’ve exercised. I know there’s a lot of cookie-cutter hiring out there and that’s where having the financial wherewithall to intern creates an advantage.

  • more4less

    there are “those” kind of interns but there are legit ones abound too. I chose a no pay internship over a paid one at Merrill Lynch so that I can see / try something different. I took a paid part-time gig at night and weekends to give me spending $$$ (plus I saved some from gigs during rest of the yr). Don’t poo poo others who willing to do it to better themselves and dont let some rich kids situation ruin it all for us avg joes

  • m4less, i see no point in trying hard over the age of 21. sorry, but i just don’t. i squandered my youth studying and studying and stuyding. also, i probably wouldnt have gotten straight a’s if i majored in anything real. psychology and art? blah. anyone can get a’s if you they really tried. art was all about bullshi+ting and trying to be as pretentious as you can be.

    i do wish i majored in something different, but i have no regrets, who cares. people who take life so seriously and try hard arent going to live any longer than those who don’t. in fact they will probably just croak sooner.

    *rob*

  • Word, M4L, point taken. Forgot how hardworking you Chinamen are ;)

  • I’m in total agreement with M4L. (perhaps shocking, but true.) : )

  • slopefarm

    cobble, benson — this conversation is really in response, sort of, to the Haiti donation and rob’s comment and not, I think, to the actual interns under jester’s fine tutelage. I think. Anyway, jester’s interns are definitely trying to take a real step forward through the internship, and kudos to jester for some encouraging words.

  • Oh, great, so now Slopefarm is a racist, too. ;)

  • more4less

    JB, if you think Rob is only good enough for his current gig, you selling him way short. I’ve said it to him many times during gatherings that he’s a smart dude and if he wants to get paid more, do something different, etc. he can do it – just a matter of does he want it enough. Rob is happy with his current situation and that’s his choice. but he shouldnt moan about others trying to better themselves as that’s their choice to chase vs Rob prefer status quo

  • benson

    Ditto what Slopefarm just said.

    (Slopey, that makes 2 agreements this week. The End must be near).

  • yeah i wasnt putting down jester’s interns.

    also, despite what some people may think, there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with letting your inner welfare queen shine! as long as you dont do it for the rest of your life!

    *rob*

  • “Oh, great, so now Slopefarm is a racist, too. ;)”

    Oh, of course, should’ve guessed Slopey was, as usual, the source of all the trouble and commotion.

  • Arkady

    I thought jester was talking about disadvantage kids who had never been exposed to the work environment – even basic things such as dress code, being on time. It’s great if an intro to the labor field opens their eyes as well as doors.

  • Slopey, I think we’re crossing wires. You’re reading my comments as responding to one thing, when I’m responding to other comments.

  • more4less

    Rob, never too late to do the chase – especially when one doesn’t have a kids to worry about. I’m tired of corp gig so am aggressively trying to start / buy a biz with some partners. and I’ve a few years old than you and have a kid. but as long as you’re happy with current situation, that’s fine. if you’re not happy, dont sell yourself short cause it aint impossible to chase down something diff/better

  • “i do wish i majored in something different”

    I really wish I majored in something different. I did political science at a state university, which means I shat out a few papers each semester and sat in class listening to a bunch of profs who got out of vietnam to do drum circles and drop acid try to indoctrinate me.

    If I could do it over again I would do hard science or engineering or math.

    I can’t decide if I regret going to law school. I’m sick of having to be around other lawyers but I guess it’s an OK job. Actually I have a lot of fun doing it as long as I don’t take myself too seriously and don’t feel like I have to do things the way other people do them. I went through a stage where I took myself super duper seriously. That sucked.

  • lol i wasnt moaning about a bunch of disadvantaged hard working kids! i like to piss and moan and about 30 year old interns who work for free and buy 7 dollar frappucinos everyday, and i have ever right to! granted i dont work with people like that, but so many people i know do. and know what they spend half their day doing!? talking about going out the hamptons for the weekend blah blah blah, that’s just one example of an intern a friend of mine works with. oh yeah, and she takes a CAB to and from her internship and her apt everyday! there’s a gazillion women (and men actually) out there who would kill for the internship this girl has (it’s a good one at a well known fashion icon’s company), but people like her always wind up getting it. my friend is always complaining about these types.

    *rob*

  • I love your revisionist posts, Rob. It’s so great the way you stir up the sh*t, then sit back and enjoy the mess! And then you say — that’s not what I was saying! LOL!

    Perfect. And I call BS.

  • slopefarm

    Agreed, cobble.

    jb, I know BHO is going to dig that up one day and throw it in my face.

  • C’mon guys, I’m dying today!!! Can’t we go back to talking about jessi’s wet dreams (as in shower) or at least some light face sitting for a Friday afternoon in summer???

  • Arkady

    How about Cobble’s hooters?

  • cobble, whatEVER. you get testicular with everyone here who seem to disagree with, even tho what that person said flew like a pigeon over your head!

    *rob*

  • more4less

    CGar, go read hooter thread. JB switching teams – she’s now competition with you for some hot ladies

  • There’s a thread about boobs?? Where??

  • Arkady! My hooters AREN’T worth discussing. Seriously. I think they’re boring. OTOH, BH doesn’t seem to be bored with them. ; )

  • Cobble – I dont think Rob’s post was revisionist (though I do think Slopey’s was racist; ) you know Rob hates entitled bratty interns, I thought the discussion of Jester’s interns was a natural segue.

  • “OTOH, BH doesn’t seem to be bored with them. ; )”

    But what does David Letterman think about them?

  • benson

    On a lighter note…

    DH made the following response to someone who disparaged the size of the rooftop common space on the Brooklyner:

    “true – but having a small, awesome common space is better then renting a dark garden brownstone apartment with no garden access when during summers you get to hear the sound of your land(over)lord out back with their family frolicking, lauging and BBQing while you sit inside with your fan eating peanut butter sandwiches.”

    I think this comment is truly LOL funny, and worthy of a QOTD!

  • jessi, With all due respect — Rob’s comment was: “interns blow”. I took exception to that.

    I’ve said all I’m going to say now.

    By Butterfly on June 25, 2010 1:10 PM
    quote:
    One of my interns, when she received her $750 stipend, gave $500 to the Haiti Relief Fund. The audience gasped when I told them that.

    they gasped? please, i would have donate 700 if i was getting rent checks from mommy and daddy too. interns blow.

  • slopefarm

    wait, are you serious or kidding, jb (about the racist thing)? Do we need to talk this out?

  • How much respect am I due? What if it’s none?

  • denton

    Just came back from a Forest City / Ratner retirement lunch. Saw some of the biggies I’ve met thru the years. It was a pleasure to tell them that I and many of my neighbors in PS were pro-AY, in spite of what they might think.

  • Slope – totally kidding! I thought ENY was implying some stuff about Jester and then when you agreed with him, I jokingly put you in the same camp. Sorry! Great stuff in the AY thread earlier this week, btw.

  • benson

    Denton;

    Were there any interns there?

    You best not answer that if you know what’s good for you!

  • well for what it’s worth when i heard that she gave most her stipend to a charity, i assumed this was a rich intern, thus my mummy and daddy comment. it didnt even register to me these were disadvanted kids. tho sometimes i hate the term “disadvantaged”. cuz kids can essentially get free everything in this city! on the train i saw a notice up that people 18 and under can get free summer meals all summer! okay, sorry that was a tangent, and im in no way hating on poor kids getting free healthy meals, so dont go there. we have different kinds of brains, me and you cobble, the sooner you learn to accept that fact, the sooner my posts will stop ruffling your feathers.

    *rob*

  • thanks benson!!

    i wish i would make sure my QOTD worthy stuff was spelling/gramatically correct!

  • rf

    OK, I am looking for someone to share this tidbit with and here you are. I just heard about the brother of a friend of my daughter’s who is graduating from Murray Bergtram High School of Business (third-rate ghetto school in lower Manhattan) and is on his way to HARVARD! Second generation Chinese kid.

  • dipster quote is hysterical… however are there really landlords out there who dont let their tenants have access to the back yard? that’s just mean. it’s almost as mean as not letting single adults into the pier 6 water park!!

    *rob*

  • East New York

    If Rob were to take a non-paying internship, how would he pay his bills?

    **

    Get another job and do both. That’s what I did, several times. Not everyone who wins an internship is an entitled trust-funder.

    IJ – if no one was offended, that’s cool. I like your approach as well. Like Donatella, I believe standards should always be set high for everyone, regardless of background.

  • “it’s almost as mean as not letting single adults into the pier 6 water park!!”

    Rob, I went this weekend. It’s not for anyone that isn’t a small child. Don’t bother to (try to) find it.

  • slopefarm

    A boss once instructed me that “with all due respect” means no respect (sounds nice, but leaves open the Q of how much respect is actually due), whereas “I respectfully disagree” unequivocally means respect. Anyone else understand it that way?

  • “CGar, go read hooter thread. JB switching teams – she’s now competition with you for some hot ladies”

    Can you post the link in the OT please???

    If JB and I switch teams TOGETHER, that could make for a fun 3-way!!! (For ME at least!!)

    DH, you always effing crack me up!! Benson, can’t venture outside today, so thanks for posting that quote here.

  • donatella

    I think your understanding of the intern program is correct Arkady. It is invaluable for teenagers to get a preview of the world of work and regarding degrees, I sometimes wish I did something different but I have had the strange experience of seeing extremely well educated people with Brahmin degrees struggling to situate themselves in the world of work. My Mexican Spanish tutor has a Phd from Cambridge in Physics and did post-graduate work at MIT. She is trying to get a financial engineer job in the financial industry and she can’t even get arrested. I think she might have other issues but so much success is related to understanding the world at large, what is needed out there and positioning yourself correctly.

    I tried introducing her to a few people but she just can’t seem to get it together :(

  • “however are there really landlords out there who dont let their tenants have access to the back yard?”

    well, my old landlord didn’t (and he didn’t even live in the same building, he lived in an adjacent building and had a door that opened up into our yard!)

    During my long, drawn out apt search earlier in the year I encountered alot of garden apts with no yard access. Also alot that said ‘no smoking’, indoors OR on the stoop – so i’d have to walk down the block for a smoke.

    I love dealing with a large mgmt company as a landlord rather than a crazy small time landlord.

  • quote:
    OK, I am looking for someone to share this tidbit with and here you are. I just heard about the brother of a friend of my daughter’s who is graduating from Murray Bergtram High School of Business (third-rate ghetto school in lower Manhattan) and is on his way to HARVARD! Second generation Chinese kid.

    ha. that’s awesome. and people are always saying and placing blame on it’s the teachers, it’s the school, it’s the public school curriculum.. NOT. the resources are there, you just have to use them. that’s nice to hear RF. however i always giggle when i hear the names of some of these public schools.

    *rob*

  • Ok, I’ll change it. jessi, I respectfully disagree. Whatever floats your boat.

  • “A boss once instructed me that “with all due respect” means no respect (sounds nice, but leaves open the Q of how much respect is actually due), whereas “I respectfully disagree” unequivocally means respect. Anyone else understand it that way?”

    Yes. Learned in Moot Court never to say “with all due respect” but to instead say, “I respectfully disagree” or just “Respectfully….”

  • rf

    It’s funny, when we were looking at high schools last year, there was one that my daughter kind of liked that would have looked really fab on a college application. She would have been a star there, but I worried that she wouldn’t learn enough to do well in college. I went to a medium-crummy working-class high school and I felt very uneducated in college in comparison to my fellow-students whose high schools were more rigorous.

  • CGar – it’s not that exciting – I just said I think the servers at Hooters wear orange shorts that make their butts look cute.

  • quote:
    I love dealing with a large mgmt company as a landlord rather than a crazy small time landlord.

    oh totally. imagine getting stuck with a Mr. Roper or Mr. Furley situation!?

    oh, and on three’s company they paid exactly 300 dollars a month for rent, cuz there were always episodes about them either accidently losing the rent, or not having enough, etc, etc. weren’t jack, chrissy, and janet adults!? and then when terry replaced chrissy they would still have trouble making 300 dollars (that’s 100 dollars each!). where did all their money go? jack was a chef, terry was a nurse, and janet worked in a flower shop(lol) and yet they still couldnt scrape together 300 dollars a month.

    *rob*

  • donatella

    Re: Murray Bertram High School, one of the first rate teachers the Harvard student may have had is my nephew, new young teacher there. I spent some time with him to try to figure out the right path and I think he found it.

  • Yes, Slopey and jessi on respect. I agree.

    I know a lot of people who don’t give tenants garden access, or only let them use a small area under the deck from the owner’s apartment. I wouldn’t either if I lived in the house. Garden is why I would BUY another house!

    ArCATy, Cobble is like a sister to me (albeit a tall, mean, sometimes crazed sister), so please do NOT suggest I check out her hooters!

  • rf i went to a working-class high school too.. i wasnt overwhelmed in college tho because it was just a state school and i wasnt taking very hard classes. however i was shocked to see how many AP credits people started out with! our high school offered ZERO AP classes. that’s kinda lame. it was a decent high school tho for the area.

    *rob*

  • Arkady

    Slopey – I think both those are a matter of intonation, not semantics. Sincerely stated, they can mean what the words say but they are frequently used as “filler” & don’t carry any real meaning.

  • “CGar – it’s not that exciting – I just said I think the servers at Hooters wear orange shorts that make their butts look cute.”

    jb, trust me when I tell you it’s VERY exciting in the image I conjured up!! ;-)

  • daveinbedstuy

    Sorry…..lunch meeting…missed a lot.

    Did see ENY tell me what my thinking was on the beverage tax. Glad he cleared that up for me.

    [Flips ENY the bird]

  • more4less

    Rob, $9.50/hr to rent my mini-me to get you into the park. no accounts payable. cash on delivery of child

  • lunch meeting = pre-holiday nooner

  • Dave, I know you have your Asian hair salon in midtown, but I discovered one on 19th Street, between 6th & 7th. Worth the excursion fare for the heteros and the homos.

  • benson

    So, anybody have an intern story?

  • East New York

    “Murray Bergtram High School of Business (third-rate ghetto school in lower Manhattan) and is on his way to HARVARD! Second generation Chinese kid.”

    My sister graduated from this school, chose not to go to college (she had that option) and is today a highly paid manager at Verizon. She worked hard to get where’s she’s at today (homeowner in Virginia) – something you would never understand.

  • Arkady

    CatGar – Go read some Thos. Mann.

  • benson

    “Rob, $9.50/hr to rent my mini-me to get you into the park. no accounts payable. cash on delivery of child”

    Well, we have zipcar, why not zipkid too?

  • donatella

    By more4less on June 25, 2010 2:49 PM

    Rob, $9.50/hr to rent my mini-me to get you into the park. no accounts payable. cash on delivery of child

    I am sure that you are teaching mini-me about entrepreneurship. Does mini-me negotiate a fee split?

  • slopefarm

    “oh totally. imagine getting stuck with a Mr. Roper or Mr. Furley situation!?”

    Is THAT how you see me, rob?? (Don’t think I could rock the Hawaiian shirt/white slacks/silk scarf look quite like Mr. F, tho.)

  • donatella

    By East New York on June 25, 2010 2:53 PM

    “Murray Bergtram High School of Business (third-rate ghetto school in lower Manhattan) and is on his way to HARVARD! Second generation Chinese kid.”

    My sister graduated from this school, chose not to go to college (she had that option) and is today a highly paid manager at Verizon. She worked hard to get where’s she’s at today (homeowner in Virginia) – something you would never understand.

    Yes, I noticed this too.

  • more4less

    rf, that clothing vendor operating out of a van opposite the Hong Kong station restaurant on bayard st in chinatown – her son got full scholarship to MIT. I remember the kid helping out at the van often too. hope my boy can turn out that well too and not only would I be proud, I can retire early (ie bank his college fund as retirement fund)

  • rf

    By East New York on June 25, 2010 2:53 PM

    “Murray Bergtram High School of Business (third-rate ghetto school in lower Manhattan) and is on his way to HARVARD! Second generation Chinese kid.”

    My sister graduated from this school, chose not to go to college (she had that option) and is today a highly paid manager at Verizon. She worked hard to get where’s she’s at today (homeowner in Virginia) – something you would never understand.

    ENY are you talking to me??? WTF?

  • ArCATy, why, in particular?

    Cobble, I apologize. You’re NOT sometimes crazed. You are alltimes tall and mean, though. And if it will make you happy, please feel free to flash me your hooters any time you like. I’ll even play with them if you’ll let me.

  • more4less

    Benson/Donatella, if Rob bites on offer, he is effectively paying me to babysit the mini-me. that’s sweet sweet deal

  • more4less

    Ok, that’s exhibit #245 CGar has ALREADY switched teams. Kens and I will need to get him some chick (of course non-latina else Kens would cut him off)

  • quote:
    ENY are you talking to me??? WTF?

    you dissed his sister lol. i’d run!

    *rob*

  • I had a few internships – one was a ‘summer internship’ where we basically got paid a buttload of money to get wined and dined and do very little work

    Another few during the school year where i was a tax slave – but got overtime so i couldn’t complain

  • “”oh totally. imagine getting stuck with a Mr. Roper or Mr. Furley situation!?”

    Is THAT how you see me, rob?? (Don’t think I could rock the Hawaiian shirt/white slacks/silk scarf look quite like Mr. F, tho.)”

    Slopey reminds me more of the Skipper on Gilligan’s Island.

  • benson

    Newsflash!! This just in:

    “By 11217 on June 25, 2010 2:56 PM

    I would give my left nut for an island kitchen.”

  • more4less

    can we get lebron drunk during his july 1st wine & dine thing at NYC? snap a few photos of him getting busy with some hot girls then black mail him to sign with Knicks? don’t know how else we can get him to the team

  • East New York

    I’m sorry rf. I actually missed your earlier post and its intent. When I saw the phrase “third rate ghetto school” in Rob’s post, I kind of flew off the handle, as I resent that characterization. I also thought Rob was the one making that implication so sorry to you both. I clearly need to read a little better.

  • rf, Maybe it was the “third-rate ghetto school” part. Just a guess.

  • East New York

    Did see ENY tell me what my thinking was on the beverage tax. Glad he cleared that up for me.

    [Flips ENY the bird]

    You’re welcome!

  • slopefarm

    “Slopey reminds me more of the Skipper on Gilligan’s Island.”

    You sure you want to start that game? What 60s-70s sitcom character does each PLUSA remind you of? This ain’t gonna be pretty.

  • East New York

    you dissed his sister lol. i’d run!

    *rob*

    No one has to run from me. I’m just going to say what I think and leave it at that. No need to get with the physical.

  • rf

    ENY,

    OK, you’re forgiven lol.

    I am talking about Murray Bergtram High School of today, with a 54.3 percent graduation rate.

    http://insideschools.org/index12.php?fso=963

  • STATEMENT A: “i see no point in trying hard over the age of 21.”

    Rob, that sounds like an awful boring life!

    STATEMENT B: “Rob is happy with his current situation and that’s his choice.”

    But Rob does NOT seem to be happy with his current situation. Seems to me there’s a clear correlation here.

  • more4less

    bergtram is a good school when I was in high school. a bunch of my buddies went on from there to top schools and doing pretty well today. unless it’s stuyvesant, bx science (BK Tech is weak), the schools are as good as one takes the initiative to make it. at high school age, we aint that young anymore. parents & others have instill a ton of stuff onto us by then already. make it or break it is kind of on us by then

  • “You sure you want to start that game? What 60s-70s sitcom character does each PLUSA remind you of? This ain’t gonna be pretty.”

    A. I meant that affectionately (nh)’

    2. I’ve drawn the short straw (no pun intended) EVERY time we play “What [FILL IN THE BLANK] does each PLUSA remind you of?”, e.g., comedian, actor, you name it.

  • more4less

    P Sloper, rob is happy. whining is something he LIKES to do vs. it being an indication of him not liking stuff. if we gave him millions of $$$, tons of friends, Rob will still whine alot – it’s something he enjoys and doesnt do any harm on others.

  • East New York

    Hey Rob, I apologized for implying that you were the one who originally called Murray Bergtram a “third rate ghetto school,” because you weren’t.

    I still think you are a lazy ass slacker who blames other people for your problems. I just want to make that clear.

  • I think by this time next year, Right now will look like a very good entry point for the stock market.

  • DAVE!! Are you still around???

    Oh, Stephen’s in such a mood.

  • infinitejester

    “I still think you are a lazy ass slacker who blames other people for your problems. I just want to make that clear.”

    Thus invoking Donatella’s rule that PLUSAs can insult rob, but no one else can. Seeing the words “lazy ass slacker” typed out is quite funny.

  • benson

    Dave is on the Brooklyner thread comparing the size of his nuts and his island kitchen with 11217.

  • denton

    Mrs. D passed all her requirements for the 2011 NYC Marathon yesterday. Look out Ethiopia!

  • more4less

    yeah, DIBS trying to ignore fact I got dibs on 11217′s left nut cause I called it out first

  • denton

    The *rob* fan club is here and accounted for, me, ENY, and cobble!

  • quote:
    I still think you are a lazy ass slacker who blames other people for your problems. I just want to make that clear.

    we have fundamentally different opinions on what a slacker is then. i’ll leave it at that. and im racking my brains out even trying to think of what major “problems” i have cuz i don’t see many of them, and i definitely really don’t see any major ones. whining about not being allowed into pier 6, complaining about the costs of newports, and hating on ridiculous lifestyle choices aren’t real world problems, just annoyances. I may be park slope’s resident hobo, but i still have it better than 99% of earth’s population.

    *rob*

  • um that 99% figure i just spit out made no sense, as that obviously cant be the case.. but i think you know what i mean.

    *rob*

  • quote:
    Mrs. D passed all her requirements for the 2011 NYC Marathon yesterday. Look out Ethiopia!

    oh wow, that’s impressive. see i im not a 24/7 hater

    *rob*

  • more4less

    DCB, you dont see mkt hanging around lower than this anytime soon? I can still see us being 10% lower and pray that’s all cause any lower mean lots of us might be out of a job

  • I like Rob’s posts. They make me laugh. I have yet to be offended by anything he says.

  • East New York

    I know what you mean, Rob. And I disagree – I think you have plenty of problems. BIG problems. No need for me to go into them. You describe them pretty much every day. But it’s your life, not mine. If you’re happy that’s all that matters.

  • denton

    dibs, I got one for you. This goes BEYOND unions!

    I was talking to a contractor who does a lot of work for the board of ed. We were comparing notes on employees, and he has some ‘helpers’ he pays 9 bux an hour. If they’re good and stuff, they can move up, as he pays skilled mechanics 30 an hour, plus OT.

    It takes a special breed to work for the b of e, especially cuz it takes anywhere from 6-18 months to get paid.

    So in the context of $9 labor, he tells me he is required, when doing work for the b of e, to pay prevailing wage. So I say, what’s that, $12 an hour?

    FIFTY DOLLARS an hour. Anyone who comes on the job, gets $50 an hour. The kind of work he does, usually requires a skilled mechanic, and a couple or three helpers. Everyone gets 50 bux.

    Wonder why the b of ed budget is so high?

    It gets better. You’d think they would want work done after hours, just on the chance of someone getting affected. No, they prefer that all work be done dureing school hours. You need a special permit to do work after 3PM.

    And finally, you’ll be glad to know that the b of e is ‘going green’. Each order (and these are jobs that in the normal commercial world would be maybe 5k each) requires about 1000 sheets of paper of rules and certifications.

    So they devised a new computer program just for contractors, to save paper. The program is so complicated that each contractor has to attend class to learn it.

    My friend has figured out that the new program adds an additional 18 pages!

  • denton

    sure, sometimes rob is genuinely funny, like the other day when he said that it’s a good thing the guy with the nuke reactor wasn’t Muslim.

    Other times, he seems like the the brownstoner mascot.

    How many brownstoners would hire him in their business with their money? Should we get a poll going?

  • donatella

    By infinitejester on June 25, 2010 3:21 PM

    “I still think you are a lazy ass slacker who blames other people for your problems. I just want to make that clear.”

    Thus invoking Donatella’s rule that PLUSAs can insult rob, but no one else can. Seeing the words “lazy ass slacker” typed out is quite funny.

    Did I say that? :)

  • benson, thank you, you’ve been great today in keeping me informed on other threads, and I really appreciate it.

  • quote:
    I think you have plenty of problems. BIG problems.

    :-/

    *rob*

  • “How many brownstoners would hire him in their business with their money?”

    That totally depends on what I would be hiring for. I bet Rob is actually a pretty reliable employee who shows up on time and does what is asked of him.

  • donatella

    Benson, thanks for the DIBs/11217 update.

  • “I like Rob’s posts. They make me laugh. I have yet to be offended by anything he says.”

    I agree with lechacal. Certainly as to the first 2 points. And I don’t think anything *rob* has said has offended me personally.

    “How many brownstoners would hire him in their business with their money? Should we get a poll going?”

    I would. He’s kept the same job for 8-9 years. How many people can say that? He runs the office — orders supplies, deals with inventory, goes to the bank. Gets to work on time and never misses work — last year they had to make him take Fridays off, I think, because he had so many unused vacation days! Irreverant does NOT mean that *rob* is irresponsible or untrustworthy. SHEESH!!!

  • So yeah, I would hire Rob for my biz with my own money. Totally.

    In fact if I had to rank Plusas for hireability (which I will not do, that would only lead to hurt feelings) he would be pretty close to the top.

    I see Rob as a steady worker who gets done what is asked of him and doesn’t ask for a hell of a lot in return and doesn’t have a big ego that needs to be fed. People like that are super valuable.

    Rob, you tell me if I’m misjudging your work habits.

  • So, I just walked by a colleague’s desk, and I notice a shopping bag sitting there, slightly askew. On my way back to my desk, I see it’s from a Pet Cemetery and Crematorium. Please tell me my colleague does not have the remains of her poor dog or cat sitting in a shopping bag on the edge of her desk ready to take a tumble?!?!?!

  • He’s had the same job for 8 or 9 years?? Then yeah, knowing what little I know about him and based on my people sense he is definitely hireable.

  • quote:
    He runs the office — orders supplies, deals with inventory, goes to the bank. Gets to work on time and never misses work — last year they had to make him take Fridays off,

    um i do not run anything. i run peoples’ errands!

    *rob*

  • daveinbedstuy

    denton, why can’t the news sttions report things like this????

  • benson

    CGAR and Donatella;

    My pleasure! New update: Pete said that folks who have barstools next to their island kitchen, and use it to have their morning coffee and read the paper should be subjected to the death penalty (he’s being serious).

    Sheesh, what’s next from Pete? Lacing Girl Scout cookies?

  • daveinbedstuy

    CGar, mind your own business.

  • “So, I just walked by a colleague’s desk, and I notice a shopping bag sitting there, slightly askew. On my way back to my desk, I see it’s from a Pet Cemetery and Crematorium. Please tell me my colleague does not have the remains of her poor dog or cat sitting in a shopping bag on the edge of her desk ready to take a tumble?!?!?!”

    C-Gar you need to get a little mini tape recorder from someone in the office RIGHT NOW and put the sound of a little cat going “meow… meow….” on it and put it in the bag and turn it on.

  • Based on what you’ve told me, *rob*, you’re selling yourself short. Monitoring and ordering office supplies, and, as I recall, dressing down the janitor or cleaning crew, is not running people’s errands. Maybe the bank is, but says a lot they trust you to handle their money!

  • give up, benson. I’m never serious.

  • “C-Gar you need to get a little mini tape recorder from someone in the office RIGHT NOW and put the sound of a little cat going “meow… meow….” on it and put it in the bag and turn it on.”

    LMAO, lechacal!! Perfect!

  • benson

    Pete;

    Welcome back to the OT. Pull up a barstool.

  • denton

    “Maybe the bank is, but says a lot they trust you to handle their money!”

    Since when are checks money?

  • Rob is a completely functional, employed, law abiding (mostly) citizen who holds down a job and pays rent and commutes to work on the subway.

    He has a social and online personality that isn’t at all consistent with this but it seems like it works for him and gets him through the day and doesn’t seem to me like he feels any need to normalize himself to fit a worker bee mold. So if he keeps going to work and paying his rent and not holding up liquor stores, who cares if he does all of this other weird shit that he does?

  • LOL!

    when my dog dies im getting him stuffed by a taxidermist!! and get jade eyeballs.

  • dye him hot pink!

    *rob*

  • I can’t. I going down to jump in the lake right now.

  • M4L, I don’t know the future, but yes, I don’t see us going 10% lower from here. I use a variety of economic and technical indicators, plus plain old instinct. I think we are making a long basing pattern and setting the stage for a move back up, punctuated with some scary free falls along the way. Not too many agree with me here. I am pretty much a rogue warrior.

  • “CGar, mind your own business.”

    Sure, dave. But to what in particular are you referring?

  • denton

    Does anyone read the ‘three years ago we were discussing’ thread? I was gonna email mr b and say I don’t read it.

  • East New York

    “So if he keeps going to work and paying his rent and not holding up liquor stores, who cares if he does all of this other weird shit that he does?”

    Cool. You hire him. I wouldn’t trust the guy to wash my car.

  • infinitejester

    Many of our online personas are inflated for better reading/verbal play. It’s one reason meeting in person is so important, because it resets everything among us. 11217 said he didn’t want to waste his 30s posting on a blog; it’s more that this is a way to lighten up during difficult work days.

  • rf

    Off to my daughter’s middle school graduation! Have a great weekend, fellow PLUSAs!

  • denton

    I’d hire him to wash my dog tho :-)

  • “Many of our online personas are inflated for better reading/verbal play. It’s one reason meeting in person is so important, because it resets everything among us.”

    Agree with jester totally

  • ‘Does anyone read the ‘three years ago we were discussing’ thread? I was gonna email mr b and say I don’t read it. ”

    I do – i think it’s cool to see how wrong people were

  • East New York

    I always try to inflate my persona in person as well. Makes for a better appearance. I did this much more often when I was single, tho.

  • omg EW!

    i was just outside smoking a cigarette and the security guard in my building saw me about the throw out my cigarette and he goes, yo let me have the rest of that i always see you never finish a whole cigarette you can give me your butts from now on. :-/

    *rob*

  • infinitejester

    You seem like a down to earth guy, ENY.

  • “Many of our online personas are inflated for better reading/verbal play. It’s one reason meeting in person is so important, because it resets everything among us. 11217 said he didn’t want to waste his 30s posting on a blog; it’s more that this is a way to lighten up during difficult work days.”

    Totally agree.

  • daveinbedstuy

    Cgar…the busy body office person that you’ve become…peeping into coworker’s bags!!!

    ‘m in the Cafe car now with the Countess.

  • East New York

    Lord knows I try, infinite.

    “yo let me have the rest of that i always see you never finish a whole cigarette you can give me your butts from now on. :-/”

    *rob*

    I agree – bleech!

  • donatella

    I was just working for a minute. Yeah, I like Rob’s posts too. He has what I call “bent consciousness” which is a creative, off center view of the universe. He is very poetic, very colorful, funny. I think he is intelligent and I imagine him to be very fastidious in his habits and responsibilties. He also has some obsessions, shall we say? I think most of the time he is careful about people’s feelings but sometimes he isn’t, sometimes he’s on Planet Rob.

    AND he SMOKES for Chissakes!!!!!!

  • quote:
    Does anyone read the ‘three years ago we were discussing’ thread? I was gonna email mr b and say I don’t read it.

    it’s a daily reminder of what pathetic losers we are!

    *rob*

  • donatella

    Oh and also, even though Rob is always dissing Yuppies, he looks like one, (except for the Ms. Kitty messenger bag).

  • quote:
    I wouldn’t trust the guy to wash my car.

    seriously? odd cuz some people actually trusted me with their housekeys!

    *rob*

  • East New York

    Yes, seriously.

  • im curious if there is something specific that ive done or said that makes me untrustworthy of washing someone’s car. do you think i’d take it for a joyride? (i dont know how to drive!) do you think i’d keyscratch it?! hide a smelly fish deep under the seat!? change your radio station to Radio Disney!?

    *rob*

  • daveinbedstuy

    rob, I was looking at my taxes yesterday and noticed that my accontant did include the Schedule M thing that I missed on yours!!!

    I still have no clue what it’s all about.

  • donatella

    Rob, you can wash MY car. Can you Simonize?

  • East New York

    “do you think i’d keyscratch it?! hide a smelly fish deep under the seat!? change your radio station to Radio Disney!?

    *rob*”

    Maybe. You mentioned these options, not me. The last one is particularly heinous.

  • “Cgar…the busy body office person that you’ve become…peeping into coworker’s bags!!!

    ‘m in the Cafe car now with the Countess.”

    LMAO, dave! I totally had no clue what you were referring to.

  • quote:
    I was looking at my taxes yesterday and noticed that my accontant did include the Schedule M thing that I missed on yours!!!

    yeah i totally forgot what the explanation was they gave for that too, if they even did.. ugh, i totally already spent my entire tax refund. that was supposed to stay in the bank as my nest egg :(

    *rob*

  • Dave, didn’t I see your picture in the papers? Yanked the ermine man scarf off of someone didn’t you?

  • daveinbedstuy

    Worst thing he could do would be put one of those skanky tree air sanitizers in, hanging from the rear view mirror. Or worse, the bottle of “eau de taxi driver ” on the dash.

  • infinitejester

    What’s everyone doing this weekend? Lock up your windows because this weekend I’m singing in a classical music chorus. Last week there were only five of us, two men, three women, so there was nowhere to hide. Then Sunday night an opera singer invited me to his concert and to do a shot with him.

  • daveinbedstuy

    By infinitejester on June 25, 2010 4:52 PM

    Then Sunday night an opera singer invited me to his concert and to do a shot with him.

    And jester snags yet another GOTD Award.

  • East New York

    Sounds like quite the cultured weekend, IJ. I am impressed. Good luck!

    Have a nice weekend everyone.

  • more4less

    as DH said, “lata foos”

    off to pick up my wee one / mini-me

  • daveinbedstuy

    You too, ENY.

  • infinitejester

    Have a good vacation, Dave.

  • daveinbedstuy

    Thanks, jester. I really need it.

  • donatella

    Have fun this weekend everyone!!!

  • There are some people who are not more subdued in person than online. DIBS and Jester, just for example. People have reacted strongly to me in person a couple of times (like DIBS yelling at me and calling me an asshole that one time).

    Other people are much more mellow in person than online. Like cobble and bxgrl.

    Other people are even steven both places. Like montrose and slopefarm.

  • daveinbedstuy

    I was more subdued earlier in the evening before I had 8 beers.

  • Have an awesome vacation DIBS.

  • daveinbedstuy

    thanks, lechacal.

  • donatella

    Oh, have a great vacation, DIBS. Have fun and a good rest.