Development Watch: Affordable on Watkins Street

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Watkins-Rendering-0310.jpgThis is pretty cool. A reader sent in a photo of this affordable housing project at 550 Watkins Street in Brownsville that is being developed by CPC Resources and East Brooklyn Congregations. Actually, it consists of 13 four-story rental buildings. Here’s the description from the the GC’s website: “The majority of the units in the project will be made affordable to families earning 60% of the Area’s Median Income. The project will have 35 one-bedroom units, 57 two-bedroom units, and 11 three bedroom units.” Update: There’s more info on the project on this page of the HPD website. GMAP

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  • East New York

    That is cool. East Brooklyn Congregations has certainly done some great things for Brownsville/ENY.

  • decent.

    yet the usual… (if you go to their website and read)
    “Once complete, the building will provide housing for seniors, families and individuals with special needs”

    i understand seniors… i understand special needs. (it’s a great thing that they get into this) but since when is Families some sorta special status? why does one have to be part of a family to get into one of these units? again, total blatant discrimination against singles.

    *rob*

  • Hey *Rob* that is just a generic term for those who are not seniors or special needs. With a low enough income you are entitled to the same 1 bedroom a 2 person household could have.

  • but they make the income limit SO insanely low for a 1 person household, that it only works out working out for people who are part of some sort of couple thing or person with a child. they know how to fudge the income limits to do that.

    *rob*

  • East New York

    but they make the income limit SO insanely low for a 1 person household, that it only works out working out for people who are part of some sort of couple thing or person with a child. they know how to fudge the income limits to do that.

    *rob*

    Posted by: Butterfly at March 24, 2010 4:24 PM

    So what? Why should a single person be entitled to a low-income apartment over a family? And if you’re not broke enough to qualify for these places, then quit your job, go on welfare, and apply for an apartment here. Otherwise, get off your ass and search high and low for an apartment you can afford like everyone else does.

  • Havemeyer

    Rob, you know what you make? Okay, now subtract $200-300/week from that for childcare. Even low-income childcare is about $130/week, I think? Now another additional $100 for food. Consider also, unless you’re into cosleeping until they’re 18, an additional room or two. I’m not counting formula or diapers, because I’m sure you’ll use EC and breastfeed… but…

    Families get housing subsidies because it’s pretty hard to take care of more than one person on a low salary. Kiss those Newports and 40′s and dogfood goodbye.

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    Families get housing subsidies because it’s pretty hard to take care of more than one person on a low salary.

    EXACTLY, then WHY have kids?! why get rewarded with a low income apartment for that? that’s my question!

    *rob*

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    . Kiss those Newports and 40′s and dogfood goodbye.

    and yet i see people with kids in tow in every single bodega buying the EXACT same thing! (except replace dogfood with doritos).

    *rob*

  • East New York

    and yet i see people with kids in tow in every single bodega buying the EXACT same thing! (except replace dogfood with doritos).

    *rob*

    Posted by: Butterfly at March 24, 2010 4:59 PM

    That should tell you something. You may not want to face it, but you have a LOT in common with those “people” you so disdain. By your own description you’re lazy, under-motivated, and like to blame other people for your own problems. The only difference is you don’t have kids.

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    The only difference is you don’t have kids.

    yeah and not having kids when you cant afford them is the RESPONSIBLE thing to do. and i dont disdain anything, i disdain how messed up the cycle of poverty is and how people are marginalized into it and rewarded for it with various subsidies like housing/section 8, food stamps, and free healthcare. those benefits packages oftentimes are worth 50-100K a year if you do the math.. why WOULD someone choose to actually work and not make more kids? it’s a messed up system and everyone is a victim.

    *rob*

  • “The majority of the units in the project will be made affordable to families earning 60% of the Area’s Median Income.”

    Affordable by how many times?

    ***Bid half off peak comps***

  • Havemeyer

    There are answers that don’t involve pointing your fingers and complaining that someone else has a better deal than you do. I don’t imagine it’s particularly fun to raise a passel of kids poor, but then again, my family did it for generations. Ever hear of the Joads?

  • East New York

    “why WOULD someone choose to actually work and not make more kids? it’s a messed up system and everyone is a victim.

    *rob*

    Posted by: Butterfly at March 24, 2010 5:17 PM

    I know people who grew up in NYC housing projects who had “various subsidies like housing/section 8, food stamps, and free healthcare” available to them because they were poor. But chose to stay in school, continue working hard and doing for themselves. Some of these people are family members of mine, and they are almost all productive, hard-working adults with jobs who own their homes. So yeah, some people in the projects are “marginalized into the cycle of poverty” and some aren’t.

    It’s not necessarily about growing up poor/in the projects. It’s about the choices that people make. Some people decide to work hard and overcome obstacles, and others find it easier to point fingers and whine about what they don’t have or aren’t being given.

  • People in NYC who work but aren’t well-to-do should be able to afford to have a family. I don’t see how anyone can argue against that. Children are necessary for the continuity of the species, are good for society, and are good for the economy. It makes an enormous amount of public policy sense to provide housing subsidies that enable the poor and working class to have families. While it’s true that the implementation of these programs can be flawed, you’re speaking from a position of ignorance and your frothy hateful rants are unproductive.

  • Thanks for posting these, brownstoner. Brooklyn is a lot more than the brownstone belt.

  • denton

    ENY, glad you’re back :-)

    I would say the same things but I was working all day today, which is unusual, lol.

    Yeah 5:40, what rob don’t understand is that it’s those same children that will be paying his SS. And societies that are not replacing themselves are having huge problems paying out benefits that were promised. And dig this rob, some of them are paying BONUSES for people having kids!

  • newflash, D-man, those kids will NOT be paying my Social Security, and bigger newsflash, i dont even WANT it! if i live to the horrible old age of 80, ill flip burgers. i wont be running down and hounding the mailman every first of the month for my welfare check (now defunct, i think it’s direct deposit!) or social security. barf. and im sorry but you can cling onto the idea that kids are GOOD for society, but not when those kids are raised in a dysfunctional society. i feel the same way btw about kids at ps 321, those kids ar ejust as bad and horrible for our future as the kids from the projects.

    *rob*

  • rob-

    way to stand up to the other posters here. i have no sympathy for people who have children or want to have children and feel they should get it easier. it’s their fuc*ing choice to have kids. there the one’s bringing kids into this fuc*ed up world and guess what it ain’t getting any better! american culture is fuc*ed up and your right, surburban kids will be just as bad as kids from the pj’s.

  • here’s a couple of pics of the new bldgs at Watkins and Lotts Ave.. I have an interview coming up for these for a 2 bedroom..If the BROWNSTONER would like to use them as updated pics for the project please feel free :)

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