The SEPTA Train is Leaving its 4th Avenue Station
[nggallery id=”22444″ template=galleryview] Late last week, construction equipment and a new fence arrived at the mostly vacant lot near the entrance to the Union Street subway station on 4th Avenue. The visible signs of pending redevelopment are backed up by the fact that the DOB just gave the go-ahead for a 12-story, 40-unit building on…
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Late last week, construction equipment and a new fence arrived at the mostly vacant lot near the entrance to the Union Street subway station on 4th Avenue. The visible signs of pending redevelopment are backed up by the fact that the DOB just gave the go-ahead for a 12-story, 40-unit building on the property. The L-shaped lot has been distinctive because of the rusted SEPTA car that’s been parked on it for quite some time. Above, a photo farewell to 4th Avenue’s SEPTA, whose days appear to be numbered. We’d love to know how it is that the train car came to be parked on 4th Avenue and Union; if anyone’s got the scoop, please fill us in! GMAP DOB
Does anyone know where to buy this or any other trolley?
I have not stake in any of this, but this Jack guy sounds like a real c—.
You lyceum guys are really not passive aggressive control freaks who abuse anyone who says anything that might be contrary to your biased opinion. Not at all.
“This is a public blog that reports on local neighborhood events and news. And it’s very accurate and on the ball.”
wow.. blogging and accurate you say. IF you read the LAST line on the original post that opened this forum up in brownstoner.. the poster is asking readers “if anyone’s got the scoop, please fill us in!” The poster was creating a discussion regarding what locals know about the trolley. The comments were supposed to be facts (at least a poster always hopes they are facts when creating a blog). She simply put out there a topic that she found interesting and thought others in the neighbor would be curious about. The post didn’t rely on being accurate, it wasn’t the source of information regarding how the trolley got to the lot. Instead, it was asking for people to comment on HOW it got there. In this case.. the readers were relied on for accuracy. Obviously someone felt something you said was not accurate and you got “called out on it”. It is that simple. Blogs can be accurate as you say… but since the posters are not monitoring comments or giving any feedback, the commenter’s words are the ones left to try and set the stories straight.
Yes Jack, you are right that people are allowed to say what they feel and express their opinions.. but you keep missing the fact that quite frankly… MANY things you felt you could say were not accurate. It is a no brainer that the person being discussed in your comments would have something to say about it. All that was asked was that as you express your opinions it would have been appreciated if you pointed out your RECENT encounters with the business at hand.
I think it would make you a “good neighbor” if you mentioned the shows you used as the basis for your opinions on the Lyceum. Any local business would welcome comments on a customer’s experience and yours would be welcomed by them too. But.. how can your experience be addressed if no trace of it can be found in the comments. There is no mention anywhere as to WHICH event (or events) you attended.
You also keep attacking things you aren’t able to even give a hand with. You act as if the owner has no right to defend or take some sort of stand on your comments. You feel the comments made somehow are based on his powers of ownership.. yet, you are not addressing the fact that he hasn’t been using the good old “because I said so” in the replies he has made. All the comments posted addressed issues that were brought up in the comments left here in Brownstoner. Plain and simple. For better or for worse.
If you do care about the neighborhood and greater good… give a clear example of what you saw. State something you have experienced and how it can be fixed.
You said that the Lyceum is “claiming that the lot is not connected with the Brooklyn Lyceum, this is clearly a “lovers spat” between land owners and architects with petty differences standing in the way of larger good.”
Whether or not an agreement could have been made…It has already been made clear here that having a garden in that empty lot like you expressed was not a possibility. The architect is building his foundation in the space. There is construction going on and as you can see (if you walk by the lot at all) and having a garden is definitely out of the question now.
If you have actually been within the lyceum in the last few months.. You would have noticed tons of changes that have been made inside. The shows organized at the Lyceum have gotten listed in Time Out New York, The New Yorker, and even received reviews in the New York Times for a couple of dance AND music events held there… But, obviously that means it is mismanaged.
Contrary to your comment on the Lyceum not working with the community. It HAS worked with the neighborhood too.. maybe you are not part of those local circles. There has been a Brooklyn Blogfest, a local school had a fundraiser, families have had birthday parties in the main space, the batting cage has also been used for parties, local Meetup groups have been accommodated with space to craft, local little league teams were able to practice in the space, certain times of the year there is often a space available for families to play with their kids on Saturday mornings for free. I think this short list of events should let you know that some locals have been able to use the space for their needs.
Jack:
By the floor is yours I meant, obviously, that I had said what I had to say.
Same still holds, your recharacterizations notwithstanding.
eric
The name up on the lot as contractor? Bayside Builders. Be afraid, children, be very afraid.
Eric,
“The floor is yours.”
I can’t tell you how amazingly hilarious your tone and arrogance is. “The floor is yours.” Really? This isn’t your floor to be clearing. This is a public blog that reports on local neighborhood events and news. And it’s very accurate and on the ball. As a local business owner you have no superior right to dictate what/how people talk about your business for the simple reason that you OWN your business and you have power that none of us have. You have the power to affect change to your business and work with the neighborhood to be a “good neighbor”. The reality is you don’t. And while you are claiming that they lot is not connected with the Brooklyn Lyceum, this is clearly a “lovers spat” between land owners and architects with petty differences standing in the way of larger good.
In this case, this blog are reporting the the rotting, rat infested hulk of an old SEPTA trolley that you might have a receipt of ownership for but that has clearly been abandoned on that lot. There is a basic concept in property law known as abandonment. By having that SEPTA trolley sit there in the state it’s in for years with no effort to do anything, it’s easy to see why the courts would consider it abandoned property.
FYI, I am no blind “flag waver”, but this is America. Neighbors in your community and all over this country have the right to say what they feel and express opinions. My apologies if this rubs you the wrong way.
But if it’s any comfort, there are hundreds of businesses in this city that thrive with nobody making any issue about anything. Wonder why? Wonder what their secret is?
J
I’m going to the Lyceum and hang out with the fun bunch! You guys are great!
Jack:
I usually read what is said about many things in Brooklyn. From food to politics to sports to real estate.
Rarely do I bother to enter the fray. The internet is half amusement after all.
Here I bothered because you were making snarky, unsubstantiated claims that I knew full well were false. And its not the first time.
I called you out. If that means I spend too much time on the internet, I guess I’ll have to quit the 21st century.
The fact is that 5 shows have been canceled in 7+/- years. And for good cause.
What on earh can customer service have to do with anything when you need to keep a sound level in check and the level is ignored? Deal with it after the police arrive after a neighbor calls them? That would be being a bad neighbor.
Just because you heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend doesn’t help anything in the new media age you so actively engage.
I leave it to the readers of brownstoner, having heard from several sides, to make an appropriate choice or better informed decision than was possible after your first post. If I shot myself in the foot for being open, then so be it. C’est la vie.
The floor is yours. I have to get ready for crossfitsouthbrooklyn(shameless plug for a cool activity).
eric