‘Angry’ Anti-Ratner Protest at the Brooklyn Museum

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Between 80 and 100 people showed up to a Develop Don’t Destroy-organized protest outside the Brooklyn Museum last night, according to Atlantic Yards Report, to publicly decry the cultural institution’s decision to honor Bruce Ratner at a gala. AY Report’s Norman Oder says the protest “was notably angry,” with some in the crowd holding up signs that said things like “Ratner is a liar” or calling the developer a “con artist” or proclaiming Atlantic Yards a “dung deal.” In a separate post, Oder notes that the Forest City Ratner Companies Foundation gave the museum $100,000 in 2005 and another $100,000 in 2006; the foundation’s donations from last year have not yet been disclosed. The gala last night cost from $500 to $1000+ a plate.
“Shame!” Crowd Outside Museum Shouts “Ratner’s Bad for Brooklyn” {AY Report]
Photo by Brit in Brooklyn.

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  • What are they wasting their breathe for? The complicity between institutions like museums and corporate sponsors have always been around.

  • If you broke me off $200K+, I’d throw you a gala too.

  • That’s it. I’m withdrawing my membership from the Brooklyn Museum.

  • When DDD contributes 200k to the musueum they can have something to say to the musuem. Until then, they should shut it. These institutions depend on private contributions. Its not like the Gala will help build the arena or somthing

  • According to the papers today, 70% of Americans feel good about their financial situations for now, but 80,000 jobs were lost in March. If AY is built, will many say AY created jobs? What about the displaced and those who lost employment? Everyone knows jobs go somewhere else or to someone else. AY will be terrible for Brooklyn in the long haul, and fatcat Rattner and those who support him can go to hell.

  • $200K? That’s all he gave the museum? F#@king cheapskate. And they’re lame for throwing such an insignificant donor a gala.

  • There has certainly always been complicity between cultural institutions and corporations with various levels of moral questionability.

    Where the Brooklyn Museum crossed the line was in specifically honoring a man who is anathema to the community the Museum is supposed to be serving. Nobody argued that the Museum shouldn’t take his money; the argument was that, for a Brooklyn cultural institution to support and legitimize someone like Ratner, a man poised to toss homeowners out of their dwellings to build his team a stadium, was a betrayal of Brooklyn.

    Here’s a link to my photos of the protest last night: http://kingstonlounge.blogspot.com

  • Ha, ha. Has anyone seen the photos from this protest? Norman Oder estimated a pathetic 80-100 turnout (again, in a neighborhood of 20,000 people and a surrounding area 10X as populated). As always, most of the protestors were white and, of course, the event went on as planned, with neither the media (NYT, NY Daily News, NY Post, NY!, etc.) nor the attendees paying attention to the protest.

    Real effective, guys. Keep fightin’ the man!

  • Brooklyn museum has always been a pathetic embarrassment.

  • Hate to clue you to this, but your friends are your friends. If a vocal few–not even many, let alone most–people don’t like one of your buds, you still stand by them. BMA clearly feels that Ratner is a friend, whatever the dollar amount, and 80–Eighty! In a ‘city’ of 2.5 million!–protesters doesn’t change a thing.

  • Let’s not forget they are OLD and white.

    The Atlantic Yards debate exemplifies the current generational conflict facing the nation. The old people, not satisfied with out they have enslaved the next generation through deficit spending, Social Security, and Medicare now also want to prevent the construction of new housing for their servants.

    We need to revise the constitution such that the voting rights of the elderly are curtailed or eliminated. They have no vision for what is necessary to accommodate the next generation. Their only concern is that we maintain the status quo, forever.

    With the baby boomers retiring, the most selfish generation in history, this conflict will become ever more pronounced.

  • They look pretty much like the volvo driving liberals. Where were the hipsters and the illegal loft tenants? (Mommy send money asap I need a new place.) If it rained yesterday, would they stand in the rain to protest? Just curious.

  • Why in the hell do these losers think they represent anyone other than a fringe bunch of do-nothings? You want to protest – fine – but stop saying you represent “the community” – YOU DONT.
    The community speaks through elections and consistently the local and boroughwide electorate has spoken by electing pro-AY, pro development representatives – to the city council, the mayor’s office, the Statehouse and the Governor’s mansion. The arrogance of these people is overwhelming….

  • I call on every person at this rally, Dan Goldstein , Norman Older and the rest of that brigade to produce their last 3yrs tax returns to show how much $ you gave to charity.

    I don’t know Bruce Ratner or anyone who knows Bruce Ratner but I am willing to bet that he gives a larger % of his income to charity than anyone associated with this protest -

    I know the hypocrisy – I see the condo and coop applications of all these so called “Progressives” – giving .5% of your income in the form of inflated value of clothes donated to the salvation army is not charity – it is disgusting.

  • kingstonlounge, do you know the slightest thing about fundraising for arts institutions? Regardless of what you or anyone else says, back-to-back annual donations of 100K from one person is incredibly generous (and let us not forget that Ratner donates to other organizations, so this is but a snapshot of his charitable contributions).

    Running organizations is all about survival, and by not honoring Ratner, the Bklyn Museum would be jeopardizing an important source of money. Call Tish James and ask her how much money she’s secured for the Brooklyn Museum since 2005 – I’m sure it’s far less than 200K, if it’s anything at all.

  • Nimbys that’s all they are. Those who only care about themselves and not the bigger picture only knows to cry wolf. The really displaced people weren’t there because they’re already paid off.

  • Actually, blustering troll hiding behind guest status at 10:08 AM, our Governor’s mansion is currently occupied by a gentleman who has repeatedly come down against eminent domain. Fort Greene representative Letitia James, whom the community spoke through by electing, has vocally denounced the project.

    Your argument does not hold water.

  • Tish James has been very ineffective so far. Makes me thinks lip service is what comes out of her mouth. And she has higher political ambition, too. What has she accomplished for Brooklyn?

  • The ‘ratner is a vampire’ photo on curbed is hysterical. Shades of anti-semitism, no? The chick in the picture is carrying a starbucks cup…ha ha.

  • yuppie douche-bags…

  • Posted by: guest at April 4, 2008 9:51 AM

    Typical typical comment from someone who knows nothing about organizing.

    You should just admit how much you love DDDb, because with out them, you might actually have DO something other than waste your time on Brownstoner.

    You love it!

    Ha Ha, you can’t even put your name on a stupid blog!

    Real effective

  • Nimbys that’s all they are. Those who only care about themselves and not the bigger picture only knows to cry wolf. The really displaced people weren’t there because they’re already paid off.

    Posted by: guest at April 4, 2008 10:19 AM

    That is such a grand realistic post. Thank you, I have not thought of that before.
    Here is the bigger picture, you will be living next to many more a Nimby and rich self serving people when this project goes through. Now that is the big picture, and it is so ironic and funny.

    I think Ratner is like Mother Theresa he really cares about you!!! He is a god like figure, doing the people’s work. Didn’t you know that?
    He really wants to help poor black people, really. He is not self serving. He is the world’s most selfless person. He pees gold pellets! That is the big picture, a modern day saint he is.

  • Ha, ha. Has anyone seen the photos from this protest? Norman Oder estimated a pathetic 80-100 turnout (again, in a neighborhood of 20,000 people and a surrounding area 10X as populated). As always, most of the protestors were white and, of course, the event went on as planned, with neither the media (NYT, NY Daily News, NY Post, NY!, etc.) nor the attendees paying attention to the protest.

    Real effective, guys. Keep fightin’ the man!

    Well, except for Token Kanye West – who exactly was black at the opening?

  • Why in the hell do these losers think they represent anyone other than a fringe bunch of do-nothings? You want to protest – fine – but stop saying you represent “the community” – YOU DONT.
    The community speaks through elections and consistently the local and boroughwide electorate has spoken by electing pro-AY, pro development representatives – to the city council, the mayor’s office, the Statehouse and the Governor’s mansion. The arrogance of these people is overwhelming….

    Posted by: guest at April 4, 2008 10:08 AM

    When you say this, you are of course referring to the people going into the museum, right?

  • yuppie douche-bags…

    Posted by: guest at April 4, 2008 10:39 AM

    When you say this, you are of course referring to the people going into the museum, right?

  • Posted by: guest at April 4, 2008 10:13 AM

    You can call on all the individuals you want but since you can’t even post a fake name, no one really gives a crap what you want.

    Why are you so sure people don’t donate to charity. Once again you are just some anonymous person who does not know thing one about the people you accuse.

    So boring.

  • I think it’s telling that there are a number of comments criticizing the protesters, but none that actually have anything positive to say about Atlantic Yards.

  • 10:39 – if there’s anyone who knows nothing of community organizing, it’s the folks at DDDB; their leadership is comprised of people who have little or no experience with activism, and their track record (few elected politicians, low protest turnouts, repeated legal defeats, etc.) and history of confrontational behavior underscore their failure; as for my not providing my name on this blog? you’re posting anonymously, too

    10:45 – we don’t know how many people of color attended last night’s gala, as the only photoavailable is a skewed shot taken through a window; on the other hand, the photos available of the protest prove that most attendees were white; if you have any photo evidence to prove otherwise, I’ll recant

  • “I think it’s telling that there are a number of comments criticizing the protesters, but none that actually have anything positive to say about Atlantic Yards.”

    Yet more hairsplitting. You want positive comments?

    I look forward to having a professional sports arena in my neighborhood.

    I look forward to attending a March Madness game in my neighborhood one day soon.

    I look forward to seeing the Nets play in my neighborhood (even if they lose!).

    I look forward to the train yards being covered with new office buildings and towers (even if it takes longer than anticipated and is developed by someone other than Ratner, I still look forward to it).

    Satisfied? I didn’t think so.

    Sincerely,
    Anonymous and Proud

  • Just because there was a low turnout for the protest doesn’t meant the anti-Yards sentiment is positive. I personally am not big on protests, but I did send a letter expressing my disappointment to the Brooklyn Museum. That institution is allowing itself to be used to whitewash a developer who deliberately undermined public process to cram an unpopular development down the public’s throat.

    Whether the people of Brooklyn like it or not is not the point. The people of Brooklyn have no say in the matter — for or against. Because of the Yards’ state ownership and Ratner’s cynical purchasing of “community consent,” even clear-voiced outrage from our local state representatives is totally ignored. NONE OF US HERE HAVE ANY VOICE AT ALL IN THIS LARGE, COMMUNITY-ALTERING PROJECT.

    The BM should be ashamed of itself for allowing itselt to be used to tissue over this rapacious developer’s reputation.

  • In photos on this blog, the protest looks a lot more diverse. There are pictures of people of all ages and races. Of coure there are more older people because they have more time and fewer encumbrances (children).

    Of course, pictures can deceive. Can someone who was actually AT the protest comment on the protester composition?

  • To anonymous guest at 11:09 –

    Let’s see — you have 2 reasons to be in favor of AY (you list 4 but the first three are really just “I would like a basketball arena in Brooklyn”).

    I disagree that this is a good spot for an arena, especially since eminent domain would be necessary to build one according to the current plan.

    I very much appreciate that you can imagine that someone other than Ratner could develop the rail yards (and only the rail yards, please). I would like to see development there, too. Buinesses and housing sound like good things to me.

    Based on Metrotech and the malls near the LIRR, I’d say that Ratner is an odd first choice to develop over the rail yards.

    I think that AY is poorly conceived and could never be built except with massive public subsidies.

  • 11:28

    You do have a voice. The law is made by people you elect.

    Because your voice wasn’t heard, doesn’t mean you don’t have one. It simply means you are in the minority!

  • Ratner is a visionary and these protesters are LOSERS! how dare they! they speak for a tiny minority.

    shut up shut up shut up

    the protesters make me want to hurl.

    let progress reign and these horrible people who want to promote keeping PH a ghetto slip and die on the bullsh*t.

  • 11:30, I was at the protest. Check out my blog, the url for which is kingstonlounge.blogspot.com, and take a look. While there is only one photo of gala attendees from this set (more on the way), the one photo is very characteristic of a very undiverse crowd. On the other hand, there were protesters of all ages, colours, shapes and sizes.

  • Polemicist, you are not paying attention. The only people deciding whether Atlantic Yards goes forward are the governor, Shel Silver, and Joe Bruno. Not one single local elected official has any say whatsoever. Do you really consider that adequate representation?

  • Thank you, KingstonLounge. I meant to post a URL to your blog in my post.

  • “I think it’s telling that there are a number of comments criticizing the protesters, but none that actually have anything positive to say about Atlantic Yards.”

    Yet more hairsplitting. You want positive comments?

    I look forward to having a professional sports arena in my neighborhood.

    I look forward to attending a March Madness game in my neighborhood one day soon.

    I look forward to seeing the Nets play in my neighborhood (even if they lose!).

    I look forward to the train yards being covered with new office buildings and towers (even if it takes longer than anticipated and is developed by someone other than Ratner, I still look forward to it).

    Satisfied? I didn’t think so.

    Sincerely,
    Anonymous and Proud

    Well if that is the most self serving thing, then don’t know what is.
    Why do you “NEED” all that?
    Why can’t you have that, but with out grazing a neighborhood? WHY?
    And, if understanding your non hairsplitting hairsplitting replies – you would rather have a sports arena, then housing or jobs for your neighbors. What if it were a dv shelter. You’d be the worst NIMBY of them all.

    Glad you want all those things, lots of want those things, but what if you could have had that with out taking over other people’s property.

    How is it not selfish to want an arena where someone lived, so you can watch some men in shorts run around and get paid far too much for it so they can then beat their girlfriends? Is that not selfish? Oh right because some of the people protesting might have some money, that makes your sports loving self serving desires, some how “worthy.” Sniff sniff – your positive wants sound like the whining of an 8 year old child.

    Now I’m satisfied, but I’m sure you’ll find some way to justify, how your view is superior.

  • Ratner is a visionary and these protesters are LOSERS! how dare they! they speak for a tiny minority.

    shut up shut up shut up

    the protesters make me want to hurl.

    let progress reign and these horrible people who want to promote keeping PH a ghetto slip and die on the bullsh*t.

    Ghetto??
    Visionary??
    Die??

    I’m sorry I just crapped my pants that is so funny!
    Visionary to buy poor folks so you can build luxury housing? Oops there goes another crap in my pants from laughter.

    Yea, you are someone we should rally beyond.

    The problem with you “pro AY” and heck can we group this maniac with the guy who looks forward to the Nets ( as long as groups are being grouped), the problem is you are certifiable maniacs.

  • Yeah, check out that diverse crowd digging Kanye:

    http://gothamist.com/2008/04/04/murakami_party.php?gallery853Pic=10#gallery

    More diversity, featuring the world’s 14th richest person at right:

    http://gothamist.com/2008/04/04/murakami_party.php?gallery853Pic=13#gallery

    By the way, 10:08, I protested yesterday and I gave more than 15% of my income to charity last year. Bruce isn’t close. So f**k you.

  • Nothing turns me on more than being called a maniac.

    I want to hear more!

  • OOh now it is getting kinky.

  • http://gothamist.com/2008/04/04/murakami_party.php?gallery853Pic=10#gallery

    OMG the ten white people taking pictures of KAN YA West, that is very
    funny.

  • Dear 12:30pm
    You should go hang out with these folks, they aren’ too rich or white or yuppy like I’m sure.

    Yves Carcelle, Takashi Murakami, Anna Wintour, Bernard Arnault (Photo courtesy Brooklyn Museum.)

  • “How is it not selfish to want an arena where someone lived…”

    There are very few people living in the area where the arena is slated to be built (only 2 or 3 owners), and one of them is wealthy enough to easily move on when his home is seized. I’d say that’s minimal damage to get a new sports arena.

    And I’d have no problem with a DV shelter. In my area there already is one, plus a residential drug treatment center.

    Once again, this project would not “raze” a neighborhood. Most of the area is railyards and industrial/commercial buildings. If anything, this will build a neighborhood by bringing more residents and tourists to an area that is currently underpopulated and, in some cases, downright desolate.

  • Polemiscist, what are you talking about? I’m in my early 30′s, most of my friends are even younger, and we all dislike the Atlantic Yards project. Sorry to shatter your illusion that this is all about a generational conflict

  • “How is it not selfish to want an arena where someone lived…”

    There are very few people living in the area where the arena is slated to be built (only 2 or 3 owners), and one of them is wealthy enough to easily move on when his home is seized. I’d say that’s minimal damage to get a new sports arena.

    So now you are playing god?
    You decide what a ‘few’ people are “worth.”
    That is not selfish?
    Keep talking, no one makes a point better than you.
    It all could have been done without taking something from anyone, so why can Ratner not make that choice? Oh right so that 2-3 people ( that is who is left! and no they were not all rich people or newbies or whatever you call it) can be sacrificed so you can go to a sporting event.

    RIGHT, now I see it, all so clear.

  • The project already did raze a neighborhood, you just choose, in all your arrogance not to accept that because you think they didn’t “deserve” to be there.

    When you use words like “most” it just proves your flippant disregard for anyone but yourself.

  • There are multitudinous reasons to dislike Ratner’s AY project. Its involuntary displacement of “only 2 or 3 owners” is only one of them. It’s the “involuntary” part (and for private purpose, no less!) that should give moral and constitutional pause.

  • I really think that Kenya West Said it best

    And I didn’t even try to work a job
    Represent the mob
    At the same time thirsty on the grind
    Chi state of mind
    Lost my momma, lost my mind
    +My life, my love+ that’s not mine
    Why you ain’t signed?
    Wasn’t my time
    Leave me alone, work for y’all
    Half of it’s yours, half of it’s mine
    Only one to ball
    Never one to fall
    Gotta get mine
    Gotta TAKE mine

  • 1:19

    Well, I’m 30 and most of my friends either are ignorant of the project or support it. Yeah, I have a few friends who parrot the rest of the nonsense on blog land, but when I explain the facts to them they understand the benefit of the project.

    Perhaps your friends are wealthier than mine. Most people I know are in their late 20s and live with roommates. Most don’t have a clue about economics, but when you explain to them that it is projects like this that will ultimately allow them to afford to live alone, they suddenly are very supportive.

    Some will say “Oh, 9,000 apartments isn’t enough”. Of course the simple response to that is “What about 50,000? Or 100,000?” Eventually, even the most brain dead person will come to realize that if we built 20 or 30 projects of a scale similar to the AY project – the housing crisis would be over. You’d have to be pretty heartless to not think that is a good thing. Fortunately, I wouldn’t describe any of my friends in that fashion.

  • 1:45

    We already involuntarily give half our income to the government in taxes. I expect that the government will make it easier for developers to build housing so that I and my future family will be able to enjoy a decent home at a reasonable price someday.

    The ideal of private property ended as soon as the first zoning laws were enacted. Except for a brief time in the 1920s, this has had a perpetual housing crisis ever since. Take your property is no different than taking away your right to do with it as you see fit.

    Unless you are advocating all zoning laws be repealed, I have no sympathy for you as you would be a hypocrite.

  • Perhaps your friends are wealthier than mine. Most people I know are in their late 20s and live with roommates. Most don’t have a clue about economics, but when you explain to them that it is projects like this that will ultimately allow them to afford to live alone, they suddenly are very supportive.

    LOL!!!!! Where are on EARTH did you get this notion from?
    Do tell.
    Your white 20 something friends are not going to get anything. Hell I would be all for it if I thought that were an issue.
    Nor your hard working African American friends.

    Rich folks, that is who will live there.

    You really are delusional if you think that this proposal has any room for you and your friends, sweet child!

  • Sorry to be so late, but:

    D-U-N-G D-E-A-L!

  • Lies – no one at that protest gives anything near 15% to charity (DDDB doesnt count as charity)

    Last I looked Patterson hasn’t opposed AY – and if I remember my history correct it was actually Spitzer who (supported AY) was elected.

    So lets see – virtually every Brooklyn Council person (except for James) supported AY (in some reasonable similar form w/ an arena) and ALL were re-elected; Marty Markowitz was re-elected overwhelming me – and he is practically the political face of AY; the Mayor supports AY and was re-elected overwhelmingly; Most state reps supported AY and were re-elected; Spitzer supported AY was elected, etc, etc, etc. Clearly in the manner in which “the community” is heard – AY was either supported or a non-factor in “the community”. You nimby’s represent YOURSELF and you do not have the political backing to do anything – so you resort to the frivolous use of a corrupt and inefficient judiciary to delay, delay, delay – until (you hope) it is too expensive to go forward – Sorry but in my world it is YOU who is anti-democratic.

  • Paterson has one t! Get it straight jerk off.
    And, Markowitz is the bobble head cheerleader, not political leader.

    Frivilous? Have you seen what was going on INSIDE that museum last night. Ew. Gross.

    One has to think that the more you improperly make use of the phrase NIMBY, that you are merely trying to defunct any meaning from it.

    It is working.

    Sorry, but in YOUR world?
    In YOUR world I hope the fairies treat you well.

  • Sorry, 3:12, I gave more than 15% — if you deduct my donations to DDDB, it’s still more than 13% of income. I even gave money to the Museum — won’t be repeating that mistake next year. They have Ratner’s money; they don’t need mine.

    Of course, if I stole some of those fancy placemats like Brooklyn’s first lady, I could donate even more:

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/04/takashi-murakami-jamie-snow-placemat-8000-kanye-west-marty-markowitz.php

  • “So now you are playing god?
    You decide what a ‘few’ people are “worth.”
    That is not selfish?”

    No not me or you – but yes – us, it is called society/government/politics – its called Life.

    Everyday there are decisions made by people all over that determine where people live (zoning, landmarking, etc), force people to move (taxes, job losses, etc), what people are worth (civil juries, your employer, medical people, insurance co, etc) – in fact elected (and unelected people) make decisions that are much more profound then whether someone will have to move (in this case from a home they havent lived in for more than 1-2yrs, at a profit of 100% or more) – decisions such as War, Global Climate Change, Food/Ethanol subsidies/taxes, Health Insurance Coverage, Child custody, etc, etc…..

    You cant be so naive as to think that there is anything so unique to Emminent Domain that takes it out of the realm of decisions that we as a society give to others ALL THE TIME. So yes collectively it seems that we have determined that paying a handful of people more then fair compensation and making them move, so that 2.5M people can have a world class entertainment venue, new housing and office space and the covering of a ugly eyesore – is a fair trade-off.
    When the NIMBYs actually can show through elections and/or referendums that society/”the community” thinks it isnt fair – then and only then would I feel that it is “wrong” to “take” someone’s home under these circumstances –

  • I promise to stop going to the Brooklyn Museum from today.

  • So I guess you are really standing for the VERY important travesty of counterfeiting and the visionary, Ghandi like behavior of these “NIMBY” types below.

    These are going to be your neighbors…have fun.

    Radar Online

    The Brooklyn Museum’s curators might want to take inventory today.

    Without a doubt, the person who got the most out of Thursday night’s Takashi Murakami retrospective opening at the Brooklyn Museum of Art was Jamie Snow, the wife of Brooklyn borough president Marty Markowitz. She grabbed eight of the limited-addition Murakami technicolor fiberglass place mats that were being given out as gifts to party-goers—mats that fetched up to $1,000 on eBay after similar events. And she was wasn’t about to give even one of them up.

    Hundreds of wealthy Manhattanites braved the light drizzle by taking hired towncars out to the Brooklyn art museum for the multi-tiered extravaganza. Some were there in honor of bulldozing developer Bruce Ratner, who was being given an award by the museum for donating lots of monies. (The gaggle outside protesting his Atlantic Yards project probably disagree with the museum’s selection.) Some were there for the opening of the gigantic Murakami exhibit, which also includs a full-service Louis Vuitton store (Murakami-designed “Monogramouflage” handbags are $1,500 and up). Some were there to see Kanye West perform and check out Marc Jacobs’ “performance art” installation, in which Jacobs sought to bring attention “to the serious issue of counterfeiting” by setting up a fake Canal Street stall. Still others were there to eat food catered by Nobu, drink a lot of wine, and hoard swag.

    Snow was in the last category.

    The mats were intended to be taken by seated guests, but after wolfing down dinner, the enterprising Snow, perhaps sensing a business opportunity, rounded up eight of the mats and rushed over to Murakami to have them signed. When party-goers who ended up placemat-less asked her if she would kindly relinquish one, Snow snidely remarked, “You guys really should have acted faster. This is Brooklyn,” and skulked away.

  • You cant be so naive as to think that there is anything so unique to Emminent Domain that takes it out of the realm of decisions that we as a society give to others ALL THE TIME. So yes collectively it seems that we have determined that paying a handful of people more then fair compensation and making them move, so that 2.5M people can have a world class entertainment venue, new housing and office space and the covering of a ugly eyesore – is a fair trade-off.

    Yes you are right, I can’t be so naive.

    But can you be this Naive?

    When the NIMBYs actually can show through elections and/or referendums that society/”the community” thinks it isnt fair – then and only then would I feel that it is “wrong” to “take” someone’s home under these circumstances -

    Why don’t you start a NIMBY HATER meet up group?
    I want to build a hospital on your apartment and I have the funds to do it, so since that is for the public good, can I have your place? Will you selflessly please finally show your identity so I can do this?
    Please?

  • God I hope they build this just to shut all these whiney NIMBY’s up. I know all you wealthy housewives already own your nice Prak Slope brownstones (or your husbands do, rather) but to the rest of us these projects put more units on the market and the more units of housing the more affordable it will be for people who would like to own.

  • I want to build a hospital on your apartment and I have the funds to do it, so since that is for the public good, can I have your place? Will you selflessly please finally show your identity so I can do this?
    Please?

    Will you pay me 1.5x-2x the fair market value? – if so, its all yours….

  • I wish the people insulting those who are not in favor of this project would make up their minds. Sometimes we are trust fund kids. Sometimes we are yuppies. Now we are old people. Why don’t you just call us what we are – the community. A year or so ago, when Ratner’s promises were new and shiny a group did a survey of people walking around the neighborhood on Vandy. We asked them if they lived here and if they did asked them about AY. We polled everyone walking down the street who would stop (we wanted to finish our quota). Virtually everyone I spoke to was against the project. Maybe one or two favored it, but everyone else was against it or had strong reservations. So no, the community doesn’t favor the project.

  • 4:02 – community opinion is not determined by your unscientific, non-random sampling poll – it is determined by elections.
    You are against ED, you are against tall buildings, you are against density – fine- organize, run some candidates or get a ballot initiative and see what the community feels and to what extent.

    But a few dozen people holding up signs does not make “the community” oh and I didnt call anyone old, trust funders or yuppies – I called you NIMBYS; anti-everything and bad for the enviroment,economy and anyone trying to find affordable housing.

  • two fucking loosers with vampire sign,go back to NORTH DAKOTA

  • 4:13,

    Community opinion is determined by elections?

    Hahahaha.

    George W. Bush is president of the U.S. of A.

    And by the way, New York’s constitution does not provide for ballot initiatives, cretin.

    4:13, you ignorant “looser.” What’s a “looser?”

  • “A year or so ago, when Ratner’s promises were new and shiny a group did a survey of people walking around the neighborhood on Vandy.”

    Oh, yeah. I’m sure this was an unbiased survey done by objective, qualified professionals whose results can be independently confirmed.

    NOT!

  • You know, having supposedly been part of a white, old, hippy, trust-fund, hipster, ANGRY, NIMBY (so many things I never knew about myself) protest…

    I’m finding a lot of the [uninformed] conservative viewpoints being expressed here to be a lot angrier than any expressed last night.

    I suppose it’s one thing to stand in the cold with your photo being snapped by the media, rallying support for a cause you believe in, no matter how few of you there may be. I hear it’s a lot easier to hind behind the anonymity of a nameless account on the internet and mouth off against those who voice their opinions. I also wasn’t aware that if you protest something, you are unilaterally not someone who votes. Silly picketers, why don’t they just wait for another election?

    Oh- and if anyone’s curious who I am in any of the photos from this venture- you all know already. I’m the old tree hugging trust-fund hipster with the sign that’ll never make a difference. I’ll make an account on here the moment my parents in Michigan send my allowance for the week.

    - http://sympathetic-compass.blogspot.com/

  • POLL: “71% of TROLLS support Atlantic Yards project. Other 29% too busy posting nonsense on Brownstoner, don’t answer phones.”

  • I went to that big rally supporting the Atlantic Yards project last week, but i was really disappointed. I didn’t find anyone there. Zero people for such a project that’s supposed to be so popular? Pathetic. that Bruce Ratner sure doesn’t know how to activate the community.

    Can’t even muster a friggin dozen unless he pays ‘em.

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  • I’m going to the Museum today! Its a great place. I’ll write a letter thanking them to for supporting Bruce. These protesters are not the community. I have been a Brooklyn resident for over 22 years. Everyone I know loves this project. The place they are building this project is a death hole. Go for yourself and see. The person who is leading these morons is a rich white schmuck who is a selfish fuck. Why should i or anyone else not be able to go watch a basketball game / concert, or another event because he’s so full of himself. I believe he thinks his shit doesn’t stink. Why should the rest of BK suffer because of this asshole Danny G and his posse of cornballs? Go AY!

  • I agree, 3:09. If hundreds of buildings were being razed and thousands of residents displaced, then perhaps the NIMBYs would have a point. But displacing a few people is more than a fair trade for a sports arena, housing, office towers, etc. When the inflated prices that owners were paid for their homes is take into consideration, the NIMBYs look even more foolish.

    I am 100% confident that their pathetic protest will have absolutely no bearing on the Brooklyn Museum’s financial strength. All of DDDB’s past “boycotts” have amounted to nil (e.g. protesting shopping at Atlantic Center, boycotting Brooklyn beer, and so on).

    When will these guys realize that they are in the minority? A few web sites and bored rich “activists” does not a movement make.

  • Gosh, now we are rich activists!!! I wish Bruce’s gang would talk about the issues rather than name calling. The corruption, how he bought off Acorn, how he then reneged on his promises, this is the story, not the people at the demonstration.

  • Stop changing the subjects. They are both relevant to the story, but at least Ratner’s $$$ produces results, whereas DDDB et al are miserable failures at what they do.

    “I wish Bruce’s gang would talk about the issues rather than name calling.”

    I wish Daniel Goldstein’s gang would come up with a new line other than accusing every pro-AY person as an employee of Ratner.

    Yawn……….