Adams Street Bike Lane Shenanigans Continue

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Riding up Adams Street this week, we realized not much had changed since we wrote about the pervasive illegal parking in the bike lane in front of the Marriott Hotel back in December. This time we were also struck by the number of cars parked one block closer to Tillary. Upon closer inspection, some of the offenders included cars with a handicapped permit, a court officer permit and a NYPD permit. Nice.
No Love for the Adams Street Bike Lane [Brownstoner]

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  • for the record, i also find the faded type annoying. not as annoying as the faded type spammer, but still annoying. b-stoner — why don’t you get rid of the faded type, and save us from both problems?

  • Jimmy Legs

    i know some ‘court officers’ who are getting their doors keyed!

  • why do court officers have special parking privledges? Can’t they take the subway like everyone else?

  • All parking laws break down when you get anywhere near a police office or a government office. Police officers don’t ticket government employees or other cops. I’d like to stay positive, but it’s really hard not to dislike the police in this town.

  • Would be great if this story could get some larger airing- since the parking laws are essentially a way of bringing ticket money into the city’s coffers, they are making the roads more dangerous, breaking the laws, and also neglecting their duty to pay the tickets that should be written to them. You could easily afford to give cops a raise if you just collected the parking ticket money that their behavior should be generating.

  • If you don’t like faded type, get an account.

  • Madison St: You’re right about that. Years ago I lived across the street from a police precinct. Even though there was a municipal garage with a completely empty top deck a half block away, all the cops would park their personal cars so they blocked 3/4 of the sidewalks up and down the street.

  • I’ve noticed this problem nearly every day for the last two years, since my (usually walking, sometimes biking) commute goes past this block. Who can we complain to? I really want to do something about this. The brick “divider” and the green paint do nothing to deter these people. We need a divided bike lane here.

  • gray type=good
    illegal parking=evil

  • Now now children, police officers and other law enforcement officials (including judges and DA’s) have special parking priviliges in every city in the country and probably in the world. They are the ones that write the tickets and enforce the laws and they certainly are not going to write themseleves or their colleagues tickets. That is the way it is. What we need in Downtown Brooklyn are more parking garages not more whining or more rants agaisnt civil servants or the use of cars. Cops on bikes isn’t going to cut it in NY. Just saying.

  • I’m all for keying these cars. Seriously. Using a permit to park in a hydrant spot or some other ‘no parking’ spot that’s infrequently used is one thing; but this area is a bike lane, actively traversed by hundreds of commuters ever day, who are now pushed out into dangerous traffic conditions – which is clearly disapproved of by the City, since they went to the trouble to make the bike lane in the first place.

    BUT riders don’t put yourself at risk. Keying a car is a misdemeanor, and getting caught will result in real consequences. Be careful.

    As an alternative, don’t some bike stores have stickers that are really hard to get off? I’d love to find stickers like the ones you can get on your car for blocking a street cleaner, and plaster them all over these cars.

  • i thought the reason you can’t park infront of hydrants is so fire trucks can access them to extinguish fires. So my house can potentially burn down because some fatass cop doesn’t feel like walking an extra block?

  • You won’t like the consequences if some cop catches you keying a car. So do so at your own risk.

    Better to simply post violations here:

    http://nyc.uncivilservants.org/

  • You’ll be sorry if come cop catches you keying a car, so do so at your own risk.

    Better yet, post here:

    http://nyc.uncivilservants.org/

  • Well, prior to all you folks moving to Brooklyn there used to be a parking garage on a portion of the street where the Mariott currently stands, used by court officers and judges. That’s now gone.

    There was a municipal lot on the corner of State and Court for folks coming to the various courthouses. That is now gone.

    There were blocks of street level lots on Schemerhorn between Jay Street and Nevins Street. All of them are now gone.

    I’m sorry that you don’t want the court officers, judges, DA’s, federal prosecutors, correction officers parking in your bike lanes (and btw the day that 100 people use that lane much less thousands it will be news) but the next time you applaud the growth of development at the expense of things like parking garages, gas stations and the like, remember that they serve a purpose as well. Also remember that in the cases of DA’s, the prosecutors and the court staff, some of them need to use their cars daily for their jobs. The municipal parking was originally placed nearby for that reason

    P.S. The parking placard does not allow one to park in front of hydrants, but the same is not true of no standing zones.

  • Biff Champion

    I acknowledge the reality that cops in most cities can generally park wherever the hell they want, but I think it’s wrong to put riders at risk who are trying to stay in shape, be more environmentally conscious, etc.

    I would also discourage keying of cars for the riders’ sake, not to mention someone blocking the bike lane might actually have a valid reason/emergency for being there (I’m a rider myself who uses the bike lanes, so I do realize most cars are unncecessarily parked there – I agree with Sam re: the need for more garages)

  • Well, prior to all you folks moving to Brooklyn there used to be a parking garage on a portion of the street where the Mariott currently stands, used by court officers and judges. That’s now gone.

    There was a municipal lot on the corner of State and Court for folks coming to the various courthouses. That is now gone.

    There were blocks of street level lots on Schemerhorn between Jay Street and Nevins Street. All of them are now gone.

    I’m sorry that you don’t want the court officers, judges, DA’s, federal prosecutors, correction officers parking in your bike lanes (and btw the day that 100 people use that lane much less thousands it will be news). Also remember that in the cases of DA’s, the prosecutors and the court staff, some of them need to use their cars daily for their jobs. The municipal parking was originally placed nearby for that reason. The next time you applaud the growth of development at the expense of things like parking garages, gas stations and the like, remember that they serve a purpose as well.

    P.S. The parking placard does not allow one to park in front of hydrants, but the same is not true of no standing zones.

  • 1:05 PM: Well said, well written.

    The What

    Someday this war is gonna end…

  • re: the post-script by 1:04/1:05 — almost all of downtown Brooklyn is in a “no permit” zone. Period, end of story.

    P.S.: Almost all court officer permits are issued by their union and carry no parking privledges whatsoever.

  • Biff Champion

    The What, perhaps you can fill us in on whether or not you face the same issues living in Lodi, NJ

  • Jimmy Legs

    i’m sorry for building the marriott hotel and taking up all the parking spaces when i moved here.

    bike lanes really need to have barriers/ separators, some green paint isn’t gonna stop anybody from encroaching.

  • Biff Champion

    You’re right Jimmy Legs. Why bother marking bike lanes if drivers don’t respect them?

  • I’m a court employee (attorney) in the Supreme Court building and I’ve never understood why the court officers get parking privileges. They work in one place for a fixed period every day, just like the rest of us. Not fair. As far as I can tell they don’t need their personal cars for work use so there’s no reason why they shouldn’t just take public transportation like everyone else.

  • this is _another_ reason congestion pricing is a total joke.

    They want to take more money from civilians and put a little paint on the street.

    This situation proves that that will do nothing for congestion, or bicycle safety… it will only create more parking for cops.

    Also, to me this represents the real problem with the NYPD. The problem isn’t that they aren’t paid enough, nor are they only attracting low IQ applicants…

    the problem is that the NYPD does nothing to enforce respect for the communities they are supposed to be protecting.

    Move the cars out of the bike lane because you respect the community.

    It’s the city that went ahead with these large buildings that displaced parking, not bicyclists.

  • Im my opinion these silly green bike lanes were just a sop to the “transportation alternatives” types who were driving everybody nuts at Borough Hall.

  • I hate it when cars park in the bike lane, but keying them is not only stupid, it’s also illegal. And if you think that’s actually going to stop someone from doing it, I think you’re wrong. You’re probably just creating another one of those assholes that has no tolerance for bikes, period.

    But it is good for drivers like this to know that we are on to them and that people are watching them. For isntance, post pictures on to uncivilservents and flyer their cars with a screen shot ;)

  • They should put the bike lane on the other side of the street, with a physical separator. Then these people could park (legally or not, whatever) near the buildings and bikes wouldn’t be bothered.

    What’s more, that bike lane on the west side of the (side)street should be connected to Fulton Mall, which should have a dedicated bike lane in addition to the bus lanes.

  • Until Bloomberg revokes all these parking permits – and enforces parking laws -
    no way do I support congestion pricing.
    Because it is not congestion or pollution he is pushing – but ‘pricing’ meaning another revenue stream. Same goes for REs. parking permits – another wake to make money and make life tougher for regular people is this city.

  • Brownstoner comes up with yet another non-story. Why not change the name of the blog to “Observations and Commentary on Brooklyn”?

  • Brownstoner comes up with yet another non-story. Why not change the name of the blog to “Observations and Commentary on Brooklyn”?

  • Where have all garages gone…gone for condo’s everyone…when will they ever learn.

  • I agree that the best and fairest way to reduce congestion in Manhattan, and Downtown Brooklyn as well, is to eliminate or seriously reduce the use of parking placards by government employees. Government employees make up a very disproportionate number of the people commuting into the city by car.

    But bike lanes are just stupid and a waste of space. Bikes can use the same moving lanes as any other vehicle. I ride all the time, and the last place you’ll find me is in a bike lane, waiting to get doored, and having to swerve around all the double parked vehicles.

  • court officers will stop driving to work if it costs them to park. I assume they would stop driving to work if their cars kept getting keyed.

  • The NYPD will not ticket their own cars and since the Traffic Agents now work for the NYPD and no longer fall under the DOT, they will no longer ticket the NYPD either. They can and sometimes do issue tickets to court officers and correction officers, who will then complain to their unions and the ticketing stops. The city has contractual agreements with most of these MOS (members of service) to provide parking. Parking must be provided for all NYPD uniform staff, all NYCDOC uniform staff above the rank of Captain, all judges and some Court Officers. The agencies issue permits to each employee who is contractually entitled. Other uniform staff can get courtesy permits from their respective unions. Complaining to the agency brass doesn’t work because it is hard to discipline an employee for illegal parking and because with the exception of Rikers Island and a few precincts, the city can not provide the legitimate spaces that they agreed to provide, especially near the court facilities where there are law enforcement officers from various agencies. All NYPD uniform staff are allowed to ride public transportation free of charge. Correction and Court officers may only ride free if they are in uniform but very few will ride a bus or train in uniform, before the start of their tour. The city can’t take this priviledge back because it won’t even be put on the “menu” during contract negotiations. If the entitled MOS did give up the priviledge you can bet that the city would have to provide some other type of costly compensation. You can even complain to the council members and assemblyman but they already know the deal and will only pay it lip service. Firefighters are also included in this parking fiasco.

  • Almost forgot, It is so not a good idea to key their cars. There are surveillance cameras around most precincts and courts. Unlike the cameras in the PJ’s, the cops actually watch the cameras watching their vehicles. When you get caught you will catch an old fashioned beat down and a whole bunch of trumped up charges. In addition, they will then go on a ticket writing blitz for every minor offense. Not right but the truth.

  • There is illegal parking by cops, court officers etc all over the area. Adams St and joralomen st have had this going on for years and years. if the judges are allowed to park in a public park and tv crews are allowed to park on a sidewalk (tillary st and
    cadman plaza park) the rest of us are just victims of their arroganIce. I suggest taking pictures of their illegally parked cars and publishing it in a local paper.

  • I think it should be noted that the garages mentioned by 1:04, 1:5 were replaced under the develoopment that took place above them. If i recall correctly the public parking garage under the Court House apartment at State has more spaces than the city garage it replaced. The same may be true of the parking on Jay street under the Marriot, but I’m not positive. This is a problem all over the city and I would love for politicians to bite the bullet and address it.

  • the green bike lanes would not be much good if guys with bats were waiting for you to peddle by so they could beat your brains out and steal your bike, you know? we need the cops. give them a break. they are doing their jobs in their patrol cars, you want them to get parking tickets while they are protecting your pansy ass? Grow the fuck up!

  • Unless you want to take on a job where your personal safety is at risk for the sake of others, and you get paid the handsome sum of $25,000 per year for it, I’d suggest you reconsider the negative comments on this post, and just stop the pettiness.

  • I am a law enforcement officer who works in Central Booking. I park behind the Brooklyn House of Detention in a “No Standing” zone when I drive to work. I used to walk to work from my Boerum Hill apartment until I moved to Sheepshead Bay due to numerous rent increases. I work 4:00pm until 12:30am and I sometimes have to work a couple of hours overtime which means my riding the subway at 3 or 4 in the morning. I often leave my firearm at work because I have a young childand don’t like it in my home. Often the same “perps” who were just released from Central Booking are walking right behind me, making snide comments as we head toward the same subway station when I get off of work. Of course I tell them to keep it moving or ELSE, but it becomes a real hassle. I really don’t mind fighting crime for peanuts, it’s the profession that I chose – for now anyway, but when I get off, I just want to get home to my husband and daughter. It is no excuse for parking illegally, but every job has its perks. I know teachers who are able to get their kids into good schools that the kids aren’t zoned for, Graphic Artists who use company equipment to design all types of things, mail room clerks who use the photocopier, etc… Previous poster is 100% correct. This would not be a problem if the city provided parking for the MOS who they are obligated to provide it for. We are staying with my husband’s parents to save money and hope to be able to purchase a home soon. We would have done so years ago but unlike many of my co-workers who had to go upstate, to Long Island or to Staten Island to find something affordable, we would like to stay in Brooklyn. Seems like in this market with our exellent credit and down payment, we will be able to get closer to downtown.

  • Perks have value. The City should be obligated to issue 1099′s in the amount of that value (typical charge at local garage = value received) then you can more accurately figure whether you want to continue your moral equivalent path. BTW I know this murderer who got…never mind.

  • City employees with legitimate parking perks had to give up something at some point through a contract negotiation to get that perk. If 1099′s are issued to city employees, they should also be issued to those in private industry. I am sure the value of the private industry perks will be worth more dollar for dollar. I have friends who are “on the job,” some for the NYPD and some Corrections. The cops have been shot at and the CO’s have been stabbed, beat up, had shit and piss thrown in their faces. Both take verbal abuse everyday from perps and inmates who seem to get more rights once they are in custody. In order to get the job they need 60 college credits and go through a boot camp type academy and then work witihn a strict paramilitary environment where they must literally salute their bosses who must now have at least a B.A. if they expect to rise through the ranks. No one is forcing them to do these jobs but I for one am thankful that they chose to do it. Yes the way they park is a pain in the ass but whatever perks they get, they deserve – including their pension after only 20 years. They don’t collect for long because most of them don’t live long due to stress related illness. BTW, both Corrections and PD are hiring. No age limit for Corrections.

  • FYI: Most ADAs in Brooklyn do NOT get parking placards and have to schlep to work on the subway like everyone else. They also don’t have a union and get paid peanuts.

  • There are perks that come with a job, like the uniform allowance, and so-called “perks” that you steal, like using a permit in a way other than it was intended.

    “[Y]ou want them to get parking tickets while they are protecting your pansy ass? Grow the fuck up!” No, I want them to get tickets when their spouses drive downtown, park, and then get on the subway and go to work (for example).

  • I almost got hit by a car Thursday 3.28 biking on Adams right before Tillary. I was in the street, off the bike lane because it was full of cars (most nypd, not all).

    The fact that the PBA can’t negotiate parking benefits for cops doesn’t mean that bikers should have their bike lanes taken away from them. it’s not a zero sum game – if parking is an issue for NYPD, they should tell their tell their union and negotiate the benefit. if the PBA can’t deliver, elect new leaders. i think cops deserve higher pay and benefits – not at the expense of bikers who are just trying to get to work to feed their families like everyone else.

    that said, all these cars need to get out of the bike lane – someone is going to get hurt, and it will be 1) the fault of all of those who park on the bike lane and 2) the fault of the city for not enforcing rules related to public saftey.

  • 4:54, the PBA and other unions have delivered. They have already negotiated the fact that the city must provide parking for their members. It is the city that can’t deliver the spaces, so nothing is done when they park illegally. As long as the cops can park somewhere the union won’t complain that the city is in breach. If the union complains the city will have to take the few public spaces available and that will lead to complaints from the public. So, it is easier for the city to do nothing. As previous posters stated, before the building of the residential towers and hotels, there were municipal parking lots with designated spaces for these city staff members.

  • 4:54, the PBA and other unions have delivered. They have already negotiated the fact that the city must provide parking for their members. It is the city that can’t deliver the spaces, so nothing is done when they park illegally. As long as the cops can park somewhere the union won’t complain that the city is in breach. If the union complains the city will have to take the few public spaces available and that will lead to complaints from the public. So, it is easier for the city to do nothing. As previous posters stated, before the building of the residential towers and hotels, there were municipal parking lots with designated spaces for these city staff members.

  • 11:32, NYPD and Corrections are hiring.

  • Who is it that enforces public safety rules? The cops, stupid! If they are stopped from parking in the bike lanes, they could start to enforce other public saftey rules like ticketing bikers who constantly disobey public safety rules by not stopping at red lights and not signaling before turning. Bikers are supposed to follow the same traffic rules as cars, yet everytime I attempt to cross Jay street, I have to dodge bikes whose riders do not yield to pedestrians. Have you ever crossed in between parked cars instead of crossing in the pedestrian crosswalk? I am sure you have. Guilty of jaywalking! Stop hatin’ on the cops because they get to park wherever they want. As the CO’s tell the inmates who complain about dumb stuff, put “a ‘H’ on your chest and handle it.”

  • Bicycle riders violate the laws mopre than anyone and I bet thier are a lot of bike people bitching about the cops here. 0820 is correct bikes have to obey all the traffic laws including stop signs and yeilding, they are the biggest crybabies. Give the cops a a break they do a dangerous job alot of u don’t have the balls to do for a lot less than they should be paid. Get over it, besides they are trying to get jobs in Long Island where they can get paid a decent salary and soon you will have 12.00 an hour cops and u will wish they came back

  • An eye for an eye makes the commute inefficient. Of course bikers could do more to follow laws. But as this bike lane shows, the current system favors cars. And safety will always be the primary concern of someone pedalling amidst tons of moving metal. If the bikers had a viable alternative (realistic bike lanes), maybe this would not be an issue.